Re: BMW: Distance records BMW: Re: Distance records Re: BMW: Fork Brace Re: BMW: Distance records Re: BMW: Center vs Sidestand.. another factor BMW: 24 hour distance Re: BMW: Jemez Road. What And How? BMW: Tank Knee Pads Re: BMW: R65LS - sluggish idle Re: BMW: Using the side stand, BMW: RE: Re: DoD & Safety vests BMW: Was: Power Washing, Now Washing While on the Road BMW: How to Keep Feet on Pegs? BMW: post BMW: My Square Route Experience
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 98 16:01:01 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@pica.army.mil>
Subject: Re: BMW: Distance records
Steve Aikins:
>Bob Shilling wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Joe Denton wrote:
>> > A new distance record in 24 hours has been set. ~2140 miles.
>> > On a Goldwing. Have we Beemer riders no pride?
>>
>> Ummm!! That's 89.2 mph...average. I hope he did this on a closed course.
>> I'd hate to have some sleep deprived iron-butt type whizzin' around the
>> highways at that speed (prolly much faster in much of the ride.)
>
>I completely agree. Further, if this wasn't done on a closed course or
>in the desert or prairies somewhere, I have to question the validity of
>this claim.
>
>I normally ride very high speeds out here in the desert southwest where
>there are few faces and normally straight, flat, boring roads.
>
>I easily cover half a ton, but then every hundred miles becomes more
>fatiguing and less reasonable to ride. I think my best average over
>anything around 500 or longer (and it's closer to 500 than 1000 miles,
>with fuel stops only) is something in the 87 - 88 mph range. An average
>over that, over that distance with fuel stops - not forgetting the lack
>of fuel economy of a wing at that speed, is one hell of a boast, IMO.
Well, if it was Morris Kruemcke who set the record, his 'wing holds 39
gallons of gas. Higdon claims it has a documented 1200 mile range.
Skylands (NJ) BMW Riders <+> <http://skylands.ibmwr.org/sbr/>
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 14:07:26 -0600
From: Steve Aikens <steve@nmpcs.com>
Subject: BMW: Re: Distance records
Harris_Gary/ny_technology@explorer.siny.com wrote:
>
> Steve Aikens, Clovis, New Mexico:
>
> >I completely agree. Further, if this wasn't done on a closed course or
> >in the desert or prairies somewhere, I have to question the validity of
> >this claim.
>
> Nevada and Utah deserts during the Big Bang Rally - Ely, Nevada.
Makes more sense now. Still one hell of a boast - even bigger if it
gets authenticated.......<G>
> >I normally ride very high speeds out here in the desert southwest where
> >there are few faces and normally straight, flat, boring roads.
>
> >I easily cover half a ton, but then every hundred miles becomes more
> >fatiguing and less reasonable to ride. I think my best average over
> >anything around 500 or longer (and it's closer to 500 than 1000 miles,
> >with fuel stops only) is something in the 87 - 88 mph range. An
> average
> >over that, over that distance with fuel stops - not forgetting the lack
> >of fuel economy of a wing at that speed, is one hell of a boast, IMO.
>
> Extreme LD (long-distance) riders will do over 1500 miles a day easily.
> Many broke 1700 miles during this rally. The 2140 number is being
> verfied by the Iron Butt Association.
I'll be watching for it.
> The rider was Micheal Gaspar. His Wing carries an auxilliary fuel cell.
To achieve this feat, he'd need it.
> Wish I lived close to Nevada. ;-)
http://www.doomed.com/sanity/sanity_1.htm
Steve Aikens, Clovis, New Mexico
6363@pdrpip.com
steve@nmpcs.com
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 13:16:56 -0700
From: Richard Lazar <richard@vanguardcomputer.com>
Subject: Re: BMW: Fork Brace
Keener wrote:
> Fellow Parts Folks:
>
> Anybody have a fork brace to fit an '82 R100? Prefer a tubular one with
> tabs for the fender, but would appreciate any response.
>
> My rebab is also calling for a headlight lens with a gasket (the part
> that mounts to the shiny *bucket* and is held on by the rim and springs
> (which, amazingly, are unharmed).
>
>
http://www.webparts.com/cycles/bargbox.htm
I just happened to see it, no affiliation.
Richard '85 KRS
> http://www.sierranet.net/~keener/bill1.htm
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 15:14:52 -0500
From: cork reed <corkreed@gulftel.com>
Subject: Re: BMW: Distance records
To all,
I thought some of the ironbutt types on this list would have answered
this by now, butt they havn't so, so here's the scoop'
This record was set by Mike Gasper (long time ironbutter) in an event
organized by Jan Cutler (BMW dealer in Reno, and another LD enthusiast),
It was a no checkpoint--go where you wanta event, but the mileage is
stictly monitored and checked. Mike Kneebone, himself, was there, so
you can be sure the account is accurate!!!
These type of LD events are controversial, butt, different strokes for
different folks.
"You meet the nicest folks on a Honda"
Also apparently some bloody tough ones :-)))
Respectfully submitted,
Corky
Lower Alabama
Stephen Syrotiak wrote:
> More info Joe.
>
> Was this done on a track or public roadway?
>
> Thanks
> --
> Stephen Syrotiak / Southern CT BMWMOA 24812
> '97 K1100LTB * '90 Duc 750S * '79 P200E
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:27:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Clarence Dold <dold@rahul.net>
Subject: Re: BMW: Center vs Sidestand.. another factor
Don Eilenberger talks about the wrong attribute ;-)
> lean angle are several: Tank is almost upright when filling it
> with fuel. No need to put on the centerstand to fill it; less
> prone to left-side fallovers from softening asphalt or ground..
One factor I find in favor of the sidestand instead of centerstand is that
on the sidestand, rain won't collect around the filler cap. It either goes
down the drain tube at the left of the depression in the tank, or it
dribbles over the side, but it doesn't sneak past the filler cap seal and
cause rust in your fuel rail...
- --
- ---
Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net
- Pope Valley & Napa CA.
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:34:43 -0800
From: Joe Denton <jdenton@mail2.quiknet.com>
Subject: BMW: 24 hour distance
Response to comments below.
This was done by a rider with more than 1,000,000 miles
on bikes, documented. The complete ride was documented
and several other riders came close to this figure but
not over 2000 miles (1700-19something). This was done on roads
choosen for their lack of traffic. Others on this list
(including #3 below) admit or boast of speed much greater than the
90 mph avg achieved here. I don't know of occurances that
riders in an IBA approved rally have caused injury to anyone
besides themselves. In this 24 hours over 47,000 miles
were put on by particapants, and no injury was caused to
anyone other than the riders that I know of so far from the
reports I have. I know many of these riders and from the threads
on the LDRider list I know that safety is of prime concern.
When you go on a club ride does your bike have to pass an inspection?
Are you equipped with aux lighting for night riding?
The list goes on, but the short answer is I don't think
the public is in anymore danger because these "nuts" are
out there than during a BMW rally.
Joe
1.We have lots of pride. Some of us, however, also have east-coast
1.traffic and law enforcement.
2.Ummm!! That's 89.2 mph...average. I hope he did this on a closed course.
2.I'd hate to have some sleep deprived iron-butt type whizzin' around the
2.highways at that speed (prolly much faster in much of the ride.)
3.I completely agree. Further, if this wasn't done on a closed course or
3.in the desert or prairies somewhere, I have to question the validity of
3.this claim.
3.I normally ride very high speeds out here in the desert southwest where
3.there are few faces and normally straight, flat, boring roads.
3.I easily cover half a ton, but then every hundred miles becomes more
3.fatiguing and less reasonable to ride. I think my best average over
3.anything around 500 or longer (and it's closer to 500 than 1000 miles,
3.with fuel stops only) is something in the 87 - 88 mph range. An average
3.over that, over that distance with fuel stops - not forgetting the lack
3.of fuel economy of a wing at that speed, is one hell of a boast, IMO.
4.More info Joe.
4.Was this done on a track or public roadway?
Joe Denton BMWS R75/7 (Frau Guttentite) R65 R69S
Putting The Gold Country
NSD BMWMOA VI BOOF MMA AMA IBMWR LDRider JAJ KD6HON SoD#34
Admin for Village Idiots and LDRiders
This Message Copyright 1998 J.Denton
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 08:42:03 -0600
From: Steve Aikens <steve@nmpcs.com>
Subject: Re: BMW: Jemez Road. What And How?
> http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~jroche/index.html
Below is a copy of part of a post I sent to Mike Millsap, Bryan Lally,
and Rob Lentini.
- -------------------Begin Copy-----------------------
> I suspect that most of the list will want to try to learn something from an
> analysis of the facts of the wreck.
I think you're right. And I think we need to address as much as
possible about this tragic event, as we can to help prevent it's
recurrence.
However, when the discussion reaches the list, I shutter to think of the
responses and speculations of those that not only were not there, but
cannot even imagine the conditions, environment, road surfaces, possible
wildlife threats in the area, etc., and will generate *theory* as to how
the accident happened.
I think the discussion is best served off-list by those of us that had
an opportunity to observe and analyze the accident scene at some length
and have no pre-conceived conclusions to the cause like the State
Trooper (a kid) that simply stated the cause as "speed exceeding the
posted limit" at the scene. I don't think we need this kind of
misinformation spread across the list.
- -------------------End Copy---------------------------
I implore you all to please be patient and not attempt to encourage
discussion of this tragic event on the list at this time.
We recognize the need to pass this information along and will do so when
it is proper.
The rider we lost in the Jemez Mountains Saturday, May 30, 1998, was
Tony Lange, who lived in Los Alamos. His wife and two adult children
survive him.
http://www.doomed.com/sanity/sanity_1.htm
Steve Aikens, Clovis, New Mexico
6363@pdrpip.com
steve@nmpcs.com
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 16:52:23 -0400
From: George Wright <landy@itw.com>
Subject: BMW: Tank Knee Pads
While at the Square Route Rally I happened to find a set of rubber knee
pads for the tank of my K75 at a price I couldn't refuse. As I had
recently noticed several minute scratches on the tank where my knees
contact it I scarfed up the kneepads.
My question to the list is what is the preferred method/adhesive used in
affixing these to the sides of the tank? Should it be a consideration to
be able to remove the pads at some time in the future to facilitate
cleaning/waxing the tank?
TIA for any recomendations.
George Wright
Somewhere in Chester County, PA
1975 R90/6 (Munched but not forgotton)
1981 R100RS (Gray Ghost) - For Sale
1994 K75RTA (No Name)
BMWMOA, BMWRA, IBMWR, BMWBMW, MAC-PAC,
Blue Flame Beemers, Chesapeake BMW Riders
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:58:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bob Shilling <shilling@emf.net>
Subject: Re: BMW: R65LS - sluggish idle
On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Mark S Rivera wrote:
> Many thanks to everyone who's given me pointers
> on the R65's. I got a chance to see the R65LS I
> might be getting! Made for a nice weekend...
> It seems to be in good condition.
>
> The final thing I'm checking on before I buy is --
> it idles a little sluggish. Doesn't sputter gasping
> for air or anything...just kinda 'tired'. Warms
> up and runs smoother/normal after about two or
> three miles.
>
> Not a deal breaker (for me), but I'm interested
> in what the cause might be. Any ideas?
KK6QQ http://www.emf.net/~shilling MSA S-10
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 13:42:02
From: Brian Curry <bmwbrian@voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: BMW: Using the side stand,
At 08:57 AM 5/30/98 -0500, Robert W. Munday wrote:
>On Sat, 30 May 1998 05:15:21 -0500 "Bob Smith " <bomar@tyler.net> writes:
><<< I guess I have been an Idiot for a long time. I still put the
>sidestand down before getting off the bike >>>
>
>Is there any other way? These are not lightweight bicycles we ride (the
>only vehicle where it is normal practice to dismount first, then apply
>sidestand). At up to 650 pounds with fuel, putting the sidestand down
>first is not an option... it is the only sane thing to do. I saw my
>mechanic ride my bike to a stop, get off and put it on the center stand
>without benefit of using the sidestand (left the bike running for my
>evaluation ride), and it looked rather difficult. I shut off the engine,
>deployed the sidestand, retracted the center stand, set the bike on the
>sidestand, then mounted the bike. Again, there is really no other way.
Well.... I am a petite person compared to Robert, and I routinely use just
the center stand.
For me it depends on the surface. Concrete or asphalt, stop the bike, put
down left foot, swing right foot back and to the left while rotating body,
relocate the feet, and then grab the lift handle while stepping on the
center stand lift end. Not a problem. It does become a bit more tricky
when the bike is packed with a bunch of stuff on the passenger's seat.
Now on a soft ground, the sidestand is a good thing. Three widely spaced
points of contact.
So, there "is another way."
Brian Curry |
K75RTs both coasts | It isn't that they can't see the solution.
Chester Springs, PA | It's that they can't see the problem.
SoD #23 10% #3 | -G.K. Chesterton
KGN- Improving Lives|
Around The World |
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:04:51 -0500
From: "Herb Stark" <herb@herbstark.com>
Subject: BMW: RE: Re: DoD & Safety vests
I went to the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego a
couple of years ago to show Wilma where I went to Boot Camp.
The MP's would not let me on without so many square inches
of reflective material on my body.( I now wear a Visions
vest).
I had made it 30 years without seeing MCRD San Diego, I
guess I can make it 30 more:)
Herb <Grinning>
- ---Two Wheel Only Campground---at Blueberry Farm in Avinger
Texas---
- ---800-559-1013-----Open June 1998------Berries Fresh June
and July---
http://www.herbstark.com ---------------------
- -----Original Message-----
> From: ibmwr@lists.ibmwr.org [mailto:ibmwr@lists.ibmwr.org]On
Behalf Of
JKinNPTRI@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 12:39 PM
> To: bmwmc@lists.ibmwr.org
> Subject: BMW: Re: DoD & Safety vests
Dear Bob,
I can remember the requirement of wearing a reflective
vest on a
motorcycle on Army installations going back to the mid
80's. As far as I know
at the time it was an Army regulation. {A.R}. I know that
you must wear a
reflective vest or belt when jogging on installation in a
formation or as an
individual. Dawn, daylight or night.
I would tend to believe that the security rep is
probably correct. Check
with the installation Provost Marshalls office. They will
tell you if it is
local policy or a DoD directive.
I personally think that anything that makes me more
visable is a good
thing. We [police and fire] wear them when we are on any
road other than a
side street working at an incident.
> I am being harrassed by the local rent-a-cops at my
military base to wear
a
> reflective vest when I ride, on and off the base! No
doubt there is some
DoD
> rule that stipulates this but does anyone know how and why
this started?
Does
> MSF or AMA support wearing these things. Are there any
statistics that
prove
> vests reduce accidents?
Hope this helps,
Joe Kaiser
Paramedic/FF
Sgt. USAR
1959 R-60
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:08:02 -0400
From: Rich & Frauke Rosenthal <rosie@capecod.net>
Subject: BMW: Was: Power Washing, Now Washing While on the Road
A couple of weeks ago my wife and I (oh, and Orville Rat) took a week long
trip. The bike got really dirty but I passed up all the car wash places
for fear of the power washers. My question is, what do you other Prezzs
use when gone from home??
Rich Rosenthal
Rosie@capecod.net
Wellfleet, MA
'96 R1100R die fledermaus
BMWMOA, BMWRA, IBMWR, Yankee Beemer and Official RAT
Your 4/10ths kind of a rider
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 15:50:42 -0600
From: Jay Martin <martinj@mscd.edu>
Subject: BMW: How to Keep Feet on Pegs?
Unflinching Prezz,
My first experience with hot, tar snakes--two up in a left hand sweeper--
brought my foot off the peg. Thankfully, I did not touch boot to pavement
that day. Since then, I have often wondered what I could do to help me
overcome this natural reaction in future circumstances. Last week I am
watching a little European road racing. It is raining hard. One rider
loses traction and immediately plants his foot. In slow motion replay I
could clearly see the results of his touching down. The foot and stiff leg
pushed the rider up off the seat, introducing a wild wobble. The boot's
traction jerked the leg backwards, whipping it back and no doubt pulling
muscles he never knew he had.
Keith Code talks about our needing to overcome natural responses to
attention getting stimuli. So, here is a guy that rides a bike
professionally, and he has not overcome his natural response to get a leg
out when sliding. No, he didn't loose it, but I am not at all convinced
that putting his foot down contributed to his continuing upright. Any
thoughts on this? Words of advice?
Thanks,
Jay Martin
martinj@mscd.edu
http://clem.mscd.edu/~martinj/
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:09:38 EDT
From: TallSkinny@aol.com
Subject: BMW: post
Does anyone know the BEST road(s) to take through lower Colorado (like
mountains) with the intent of reaching Las Vegas (business convention)? Thanks
tallskinny@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 17:27:39 +0100
From: alex jomarron <alex319@IDT.NET>
Subject: BMW: My Square Route Experience
With my second SQ Rt experience completed I wanted to thank the BMWBMW
group and especially Elsie Smith for putting on a nice, friendly rally.
Upon arrival my Pittsburg buddies Bruce and Smitty and I found ourselves
at the Bier Garten.We stayed til the bitter end. My only respite was
shopping. Less than an hour into the drinking I bought a replacement
shield for the K75S. Sadly, the holes didn't line up and the sale was
nullified. Back to drinking. I met with the Tim Burke, Rick Wall, and
Alan Browne. Alan graciously invited me to his house for a BBQ. For the
second year in a row, I missed it. Due to drinking interminable amounts
of Killians, I woke at 1030, missed the Dave Keuch Memorial ride,
breakfast, and my ambition. Somehow, Bruce and I decided, sans maps, to
do the monuments in D.C. Once we cruised through Georgetown, we new our
destiny. We landed in a cantina where we remained for 8 hours. We
arrived back at the rally at midnight and decided to bid farewell. Bruce
and I left the rally just past 1 am and got to Pittsbugh at dawn.The
PIAAs work VERRRRRY well! After a 5 hour nap I was on my way to Chicago.
Cruising throught Ohio at 85 armed with a radar detector, I was passed
by a black Viper doing the ton. It sported license plate # P-NS-NV.
Cool!! ;-)))) I got home fro the second half of the Bulls game. All was
well with the world!
Alex Jomarron
Oak Park, IL
88 K75S
98 KLR650
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