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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:54:48 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
From: Thomas Roemer <thomas.roemer@anderson.ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: BMW: Accident. What to do?
Dear Cole,
thank you for your advice. Other responses also reflect
your opinion and I am in the process right now of getting
a lawyer.
This is indeed too complicated to do it on my own.
It was great to get so many responses,
Thanks,
Thomas
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:49:03 -0400 "Cole A. Mills"
<MrHappy1@concentric.net> wrote:
> Tom,
>
> I read your initial post and Mike response is informative and provides some good
> tips. However, I would stress the need for an attorney and getting your
> insurance company involved. The primary reason for this is that you hit three
> other cars in trying to recover from the accident. These people (car owners /
> drivers) could sue you and your insurance company may not be there. (You did not
> mention the extent of the damage to the other cars and occupants.)
The damage is well below my property damage limit and no
people were injured.
>
> If you caused property damage and/or injuries in excess of your policy limits,
> your insurance company can interplead the funds, walk away from the case, and
> leave you standing with your dick swinging in the wind. Basically, when an
> insurance company interpleads, it tells the court "Here is the $50,000 limit on
> the policy, you figure out who gets what. Bye-bye." If there is $100,000 in
> damages, the plaintiffs can come looking to you for the other $50,000. Even if
> the insurance money is enough to cover damages, you will still be stuck with
> paying your attorney.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Regards,
>
> Cole
>
>
>
>
>
> MMxyzp@aol.com wrote:
>
> > >>Thomas Roemer writes: Recently I had an accident. What should I do>>
> >
> > The rental car will only be liable up to $15,000.00 as the owner of the car.
> > It is best to avoid dealing with them if you can, because most rental car
> > companies are rotten to deal with when it comes to claims. There may be
> > insurance that was taken out by the renter, although this is not a percentage
> > shot. You can find this out by calling the rental company. They have what
> > is called vicarious liability as the owner of the vehicle, but only up to the
> > limit above. They may make a pass at saying they have no responsibility
> > because of the non-permissive use, but this is bullshit.
> >
> > The renter of the car would only have liability for negligently entrusting
> > the vehicle to the driver. This is hard to prove, and a low percentage shot.
> >
> >
> > The driver has big trouble. He will have his license suspended if you fill
> > out a form reporting the accident to DMV (different than a police report).
> > Use either a form SR-1 or SR-13 (I forget which is which). Further, if you
> > get a judgment against him, and report it to DMV, he will have to clear it to
> > get his license back.
> >
> > The COVERAGE, if any, on the car is primary, the coverage on the driver is
> > secondary. The LIABILITY, if any, on the driver is primary. The owner is
> > vicariously liable. You can go after either first, but should go after both.
> >
> > Hopefully, you have uninsured motorist coverage with more than a $15,000.00
> > limit. This will cover any loss you have over $15,000, [after subtracting
> > the amount available to you from the driver and owner of the vehicle (the
> > rental car company)]. Also, if you have medical payments coverage on your
> > m/c insurance, you can use this as well as any other medical coverage you
> > have. Under some policies you can put in claims under both and even come out
> > ahead. At a minimum, you can se the second policy to cover your deductible
> > and any unpaid (but reasonable and customary) charges.
> >
> > The Rand Corporation [think tank] did the best study on what happens with and
> > without a lawyer. They concluded that on average the net after fees and
> > costs is about 25% more with a lawyer than without, plus someone else takes
> > away some of the hassle. [While being a hassle themselves, wasting time, not
> > returning calls, etc.]
> >
> > The hardest part is finding someone who can do a good job for you. They do
> > not need to specialize in motorcycles, but should be someone who only handles
> > personal injury cases. I do not recommend the TV motorcycle lawyers. Some
> > of them may be OK, others are definitely not first class.
> >
> > You could call Moses Lebovits for a referral. He doesn't handle cases this
> > size, but was trial lawyer of the year in the LA area a few years back.
> > Maybe he will know someone. Otherwise, maybe one of the prezzes on the list
> > has a referral. Word of mouth from someone who had a similar problem handled
> > is the best way to do. Also, the court clerks in the trial court departments
> > see everyone. They know who is good.
> >
> > Good luck. You will need it. Concentrate on your medical care. It will
> > likely be more rewarding than the legal care.
> >
> > BTW - you may get sued by one of the cars you hit. You should report the
> > accident to your insurance carrier.
> >
> > Also -- do not repair your bike until it has been thoroughly photographed.
> > Give the attorney a chance to have someone examine it if he/she thinks it is
> > necessary.
> >
> > Hope this answers your Q.
> >
> > Mike Padway
> > R1100RS
>
- ----------------------
Thomas Roemer
thomas.roemer@anderson.ucla.edu
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:03:02 EDT
From: R1100RIDER@aol.com
Subject: BMW: Corporate Ladder
KEEPING CLIMBING THE LADDER
>
> Subject: Corporate Studies
>
> After a two year long study, the National Science Foundation announced
> the following results on corporate America's recreation preferences.
>
> 1. The sport of choice for unemployed or incarcerated people is Basketball.
> 2. The sport of choice for maintenance level employees is Bowling.
> 3. The sport of choice for front line workers is Football.
> 4. The sport of choice for supervisors is Baseball.
> 5. The sport of choice for middle management is Tennis.
> 6. The sport of choice for corporate officers is Golf.
>
> Conclusion: The higher you are on the corporate ladder, the smaller
> your balls become.
Just something to cheer everyone up after the sad news we've had in the past
week.
Carlos
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 17:08:20 -0700
From: Pete Bansen <pbansen@jps.net>
Subject: Re: BMW: Accidents, Attorneys, Insurance Companies
Another thought if you decide to go the contingency fee route:
No where is it graven in stone that an attorney's contingency fee
schedule is non-negotiable. I have been in the unfortunate position of
needing to bring suit against someone several times in the last few
years. In one case we used a formula that paid the law firm the lesser
of:
Their costs and usual hourly rate
OR
A contingency fee on a sliding scale (depending on the stage of the
case).
In the other case, the firm proposed a 25%, 33%, 40% contingency fee
schedule (depending on whether the case had been filed, start of
discovery, start of trial). We counterproposed a 20%, 25%, 33%
schedule, which they accepted.
It would be my suggestion that you or your attorney honestly try to
reach an equitable settlement. Being a plaintiff is a lot more work
than you might anticipate and unless you have significant
injuries/damages/losses, you'll probably be happier with a timely,
reasonable settlement than a protracted, but potentially more lucrative
lawsuit. In my admittedly limited experience, by the time you reach the
end of the suit, you will have really earned anything you recover from
the other party...
Pete Bansen
Truckee, California
1982 R100RS
1991 K100RS
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 20:08:52 -0400
From: "wes 8-)#" <wes@newspeak.org>
Subject: BMW: Boots & Helmets
Boots: does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes boots (other than
racing boots a la Alpinestar) with ankle protection? After my recent
accident I'm looking for such a beast to prevent burns, damage, etc. to my
ankles should such an event ever re-occur.
Helmets: again, after my accident I'm forced to replace my helmet. It was
a Shoei RF-800 and it took me about 6 months to get it properly broken in.
I am replacing it with a same-size Arai Signet/e, which fit my head off the
shelf like the broken-in Shoei had. My question is this: Have any of you
made a change from Shoei to Arai or vice-versa? Why? What are the
differences other than round (Shoei) v. oval (Arai)?
Thanks!
- --wes
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:14:29 EDT
From: Prtyrdr@aol.com
Subject: BMW: trigger
..that push left to go left doesn't quite cut it with Trigger...
Ever try neck reigning?
xoxo,
Ed
Smalley
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:22:09 -0500
From: "Geoff & Marcia Adams" <marcia@nationwide.net>
Subject: BMW: Re: Re:HELP NEEDED! Wiring Kriss Modulator
- -----Original Message-----
> From: Lew Taffer <tafflink@earthlink.net>
<snipo>
>1) How do I find the 12v accessory wire amid the wire harness? And how do I
>connect it (soldering or crimp?)
Find the wire to your front parking lamp. Unless you have soldered
before, just crimp it or use a coupling connector.
>2) Is my horn positive or negative? And what's a relay, and how do I rig
it?
Your horn wire is positive, but it is not critical to make that connection.
You can just coil that wire up and tape or zip tie it to something. The
modulator will work fine without the horn link.
Geoff Adams
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:18:39 EDT
From: Prtyrdr@aol.com
Subject: BMW: spyderco
Also try Guzzi Guy at any N.E. Guzzi or most BMW N.E. events.
Right Hefermeister?
Or at www.deadhorse.com/
He's the site creator.
Party Hard and Often...
Ed
Smalley
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 19:22:20 -0500
From: Charles Jack Hawley <c-hawley@uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: BMW: Re:HELP NEEDED! Wiring Kriss Modulator
Lew Taffer wrote:
>
> I am attempting to install a Kriss Starburst headlight modulator on my 97
> R1100RS and, notwithstanding the adverstising that says it's a snap, I am
> definitely over my head. I've substituted Kriss's bulb socket for the BMW
> socket, but am at a loss as to how to connect the remaining two wires--
>
> 1) one to an accessory wire at 12 volts, such as a running light or tail
> light; and
>
> 2) the other to the horn. (If the horn is negative, which some BMW's are, I
> need to instal a relay between the horn and horn button.
> My questions are--
>
> 1) How do I find the 12v accessory wire amid the wire harness? And how do I
> connect it (soldering or crimp?)
Use the parking light wiring. The positive (+12) lead is grey with a
black tracer. Connect the Kriss yellow wire (+12V) to this grey/black
wire.
> 2) Is my horn positive or negative? And what's a relay, and how do I rig it?
Your horn is positive.
One side of your horn goes to ground (brown wire) and the other side
goes to a wire (green with a grey tracer) that comes from the horn
relay. Connect the Kriss grey wire (horn detect) to this green/grey
wire. You do not need an additional relay.
Crimp is ok. Solder is a better connection, sometimes, but on a vehicle,
soldering is subject to breaking from vibration.
Don't make any mistakes, however brief they are.
Jack
Charles Jack Hawley c-hawley @ uiuc.edu
Amateur Radio Operator Sr. Research Engineer Emeritus
Chuck, KE9UW University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
Alias "Jack" to BMW Motorcycle Friends
BMWMOA # 224 President, IBMWR
'78 R100S "Special Edition"
'86 K100RS Black, '99 K1200RS "Almost Black"
Viki, wife
BMWMOA # 18120 '86 K100RS Black, '99 K1200RS "Almost Black"
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 20:29:23 -0400
From: Richard Bernecker <rbernie@erols.com>
Subject: BMW: AMF (again)
Gotta run for a few more days, so I'm un-subbing. IOW,
direct mails will be the only thing I'll see when I get
back..
Y'all behave while I'm gone.
:-)
==========================================================
Richard Bernecker '95 BMW K1100-LD
Herndon, VA, USoA "The Rolling Bordello"
<rbernie@erols.com>
"What's the use of having luck if you don't use it?"
==========================================================
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 19:31:04 -0500
From: Charles Jack Hawley <c-hawley@uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: BMW: Shoei's New Syncrotec Helmut
MOTOBEEM@aol.com wrote:
>
> Prezz's
> My System 3 has had it. I'm considering ordering a Shoei Syncrotec helmut.
> Anyone here have one that'd care to comment?
> If I do get one I'll post my impressions and comparison.
>
> Richard Sanders
> Morgantown WV
> 95 R11RS (ready for Rinebeck!)
I like it very much. I like the one button release, and the quick change
visors. The noise is low, somewhat like the Nolan 100. The ventilation
is good on top of the head even though it doesn't look like a big
opening. Plenty of room for glasses, etc. You will have to learn how to
put it on and off. At first you will not like how the lower part of the
helmet squeezes your ears getting it on and off...BUT you will learn how
to do it without squeezing and that seemingly problem will go away fast.
Do not let that stop you from buying it.
Jack
- --
Charles Jack Hawley c-hawley @ uiuc.edu
Amateur Radio Operator Sr. Research Engineer Emeritus
Chuck, KE9UW University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
Alias "Jack" to BMW Motorcycle Friends
BMWMOA # 224 President, IBMWR
'78 R100S "Special Edition"
'86 K100RS Black, '99 K1200RS "Almost Black"
Viki, wife
BMWMOA # 18120 '86 K100RS Black, '99 K1200RS "Almost Black"
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:31:57 EDT
From: Prtyrdr@aol.com
Subject: BMW: living/dieng on a motorcycle...
GOOD JOB SHAWN!!!
Thanks for the reminders.
Party Hard and Often...
Ed
Smalley
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:31:37 EDT
From: WireWheels@aol.com
Subject: BMW: K12LT Alloy Wheel Data
Fellow Prezz'z:
Got a chance to see a bent K12LT wheel today;) When I first saw
some bent K12RS's 5 (10?) spoke wheels last year I thought it was a
better wheel but they still had the same weak bead and soft alloy:(
When I first saw the early K12LT I thought the wheels were more of
the same.
Not so! The cross section of the tire bead area is double thickness
at least and there is a thick round lip at the very edge of the bead
where before the edge tapered and didn't add any structural integrity
like this new LT wheel has. Very nice and I wouldn't doubt that the
entire cross section is thicker.
This would be a good dealer sales promotion but would only serve
to validate the weakness of the old style wheels and is not something
that BMW is likely to do, given their past denials of any problem.
I forget if the new wheels will swap with old wheels but it might be
something for Greg Pink to consider since he's trashing wheels at
a vigorous pace!
_______________________________________________
Tim(Bondo)Bond 606-873-6686 3455 Oregon Rd
Wire Wheels MC Svc Versailles KY USA 40383
ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/WireWheels
_______________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 20:37:18 -0400
From: "Cole A. Mills" <MrHappy1@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: BMW: Accidents, Attorneys, Insurance Companies (was ACCIDENT What to do)
Robert,
In response to your "so, fight, even if..." Yes!!! You should be gearing up
for litigation, not settlement. The end of my post stated that you can always
settle a case if a reasonable offer is made. However, you have to be willing to
fight and demonstrate that you are willing to fight.
When you hire an attorney, you also hire his reputation in the community. If
the attorney has the reputation of being trial shy and settles cases, insurance
companies and defendants will not make their highest and best offer.
With regard to your experience with an attorney that did not talk about
settling, during an initial consultation there is no way to know what assets a
defendant has or where the deep pockets are. It takes a little time and
research to discover how much "honey is in the pot."
Also, part of "we'll sue the bastards" is sales. Typically, people who go to a
personal injury attorney want the "baddest dog, meanest SOB on the block" and if
an attorney shows that he is soft or weak, the potential client may walk.
You felt uncomfortable with the first attorney, so you went with another one. I
have always recommended that people interview several attorneys and pick the
"best" one not the first one or the biggest yellow page ad.
With your "hypothetical" situation, I would consider going for a judgment,
however, my reasons for it would put the list to sleep and its too far off list
topic.
But, then again, what the hell do I know. . . . I'm just a tax attorney.
Regards,
Cole
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:35:22 -0400
From: "Ian Schmeisser" <ians@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: BMW: Re: What Do Serious Long Distance Riders Carry?
>-----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-bmwmc@lists.ibmwr.org
>[mailto:owner-bmwmc@lists.ibmwr.org]On
>
>Would hate to get a whiff of the crotch on your Aerostich
suit
>or boots.
Excuse me, but what the @$%^#%^#% are you doing sniffing
anyone's crotch? We ain't dogs, doncha know!
;^)
Just turn your undies inside out... and don't get this in a
knot!
Please, let's not let this thread degenerate into another
peri-anal discussion.
Ian
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 18:08:54 -0700
From: corll214@uswest.net
Subject: BMW: risks
When my son died from a horseback riding accident (dogs
running loose -- we know about those, don't we) Harborview
Trauma Center in Seattle used his foundation money to
research horseback riding accidents. Turns out the
accidents/hour put horseback riding at highest risk with
drag racing second. I don't remember cycles, but I'll find
out. Harborview developed a riding helmet program in
response. I quit horses, I quit motorcycles 25 years ago
when friends died, and I quit skiing when I trashed my
knees. But life as a slug is no less dangerous.
Remembering what "I used to do" is a life of psychic pain.
Didn't Don Juan counsel Carlos about the wisdom gained when
we learn to walk with death at our shoulder? Let's face it,
its a dangerous world. We all create our own peace and
sense of meaning with it I guess.
My dilemna is facing the fear and over-caution. 25 years
ago I know I was a much better rider screamin' through the
Rockies on my Triumph with a buzz on. Now I know too much
and wonder where the line is between caution and flow.
Corll in wet WA
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 21:02:06 -0400
From: "Cole A. Mills" <MrHappy1@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: BMW: GPS
Hi Bill,
So you liked my GPS unit on the bike.
While I thoroughly enjoy my Garmin III+, I have to comment on something Gil wrote.
The memory of the III+ is too small. For instance, I can not download the entire
state of Connecticut into the unit. In contrast, the Street pilot uses cartridges
that can be switched. While the cartridges are expensive and not updateable, they
are easier to pack than a laptop and cables. On my trip to the SERB, I only had
room to load local maps of Georgia.
I have seen the Street Pilot. As for size, it is not a big back box, but only 2 1/2
times the size of the III. The colors are confusing to read during the daylight and
I prefer the black and white screen of the III. Also, the base map detail of the
III is impressive and much improved over the III (which I previously owned).
Both units have good points and bad points, the choice is yours.
Regards,
Cole
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 21:12:11 -0400
From: "Cole A. Mills" <MrHappy1@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: BMW: Re: What Do Serious Long Distance Riders Carry?
Ian,
I said "whiff" not "sniff"!!!!!!
A "whiff" is when the odor travels past you or lingers. For example, a
woman with wearing a lot of cheap perfume. "Did you get a whiff of that
cheap perfume."
A "sniff" is when one actively seeks out a smell. For example, putting
your nose to something and inhaling. "Take a sniff by the brake pad, it
doesn't smell right."
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 20:27:04 -0500
From: Michael Cornett <Michael@Cornett.com>
Subject: Re: BMW: GPS
Folks,
The downloadable maps for the Garmin III+ are excellent, but the base map
is sufficient for most situations. When I travel I just download the maps
for the areas where I expect to be wandering around trying to find
something. Even without the downloaded maps, the III+ base map shows the
major streets and all the highways in the Chicago area. More detail gets in
the way unless I'm trying to find a specific address, and then paper maps
and written directions are better anyway.
The III+ size is much more manageable and it fits in a pocket easily.
Better if you want to go hiking, too. Oh yeah, I like the III+ a lot :-))
Mike
Downtown (Chicago) Mike Cornett
'95 BMW K1100LT "K Bueno" (formerly famous license plate)
Texan-in-Exile #1
IBMWR, MOA, RA, AMA, IBA
National Park Stamp Fanatic
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