BMW: Now A Licensed Operator BMW: Speedo broke after 5 K.. Re: BMW: GPS BMW: Re: Risks Re: BMW: Battery Tender Re: BMW: Arai Helmet Lube BMW: Seat Help BMW: (no subject) Re: BMW: Boots & Helmets Re: BMW: Seat Help BMW: Re: LDRider: 200K durability Re: BMW: battery tender BMW: Handlebar Shake K75 Re: BMW: New K design, was K12 ageing.. Re: BMW: battery tender Re: BMW: Handlebar Shake K75 Re: BMW: 200K durability BMW: RE: Handlebar Shake K75 BMW: Re : Test stainless steel and other metals Re: Re: BMW: Continued History lesson RE: BMW: New K design, was K12 ageing.. BMW: Mr. Cutler BMW: Boots & Helmets
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:30:44 -0400
From: Lewis Kirk <captkirk@dmzgraphics.com>
Subject: BMW: Now A Licensed Operator
ANNOUNCEMENT:
I am now an officially licensed motorcycle operator in South Carolina.
I passed my road test today, never leaving first gear. Excellent practice
for slow races. Kind of like playing Putt Putt, and getting a PGA tour
license. Even the pylons were only 6 inches high. Thank goodness for
electric start, too. Had to cut the bike off after every "maneuver".
I am still seeking a licensed driver over 21 (of the female persuasion) to
ride with me, even though I don't have just a learner's permit anymore...
Lewis Kirk
captkirk@dmzgraphics.com
www.dmzgraphics.com
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 18:35:07 PDT
From: Hock Ann Tan <bmw_singapore@hotmail.com>
Subject: BMW: Speedo broke after 5 K..
Hi,
have you checked the speedo cable?Were you doing 200kmh like I did?
Mine went last month with 30,000km on the meter and 3 yrs on the log book.
It cost me only S$26 to replace (US1 = S$1.7).Check it out.
Hock Ann
Singapore
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Get Your Private, Free Email at www.hotmail.com
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:49:11 EDT
From: LegalR@aol.com
Subject: Re: BMW: GPS
In a message dated 7/1/99 9:30:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
giljones@tstar.net writes:
<< The SP is dependent on where do they build a cartridge for, and the last I
looked the cartridges were about $100 EACH. >>
This is no longer correct. Suggest you read:
<A HREF="joe.mehaffey.com/spmetroguide.htm">StreetPilot now has User
Uploadable Maps
</A> and you'll see the current information on uploadable maps. And don't
forget to compare the capacity of the III+ and the SP for accepting data. SP
can accept as much as 16 mb. The III+ is sorely limited.
Larry Miller
Wallingford, VT
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:58:30 -0600
From: "Surf" <surf@zianet.com>
Subject: BMW: Re: Risks
Corll,
To steal a quote..."There is no try, there is only do." How true, when your
butt is hanging out over the line you don't have time to think about, you
just make it happen.
There are obvious downsides to taking risks, however, you can end up marking
the day by truly seeing the exquisite beauty of life, and realizing that you
are indeed fortunate to be here. It's worth the trade-off.
Steve Lyell
White Sands, NM
Red R850R
- ----- Original Message -----
> From: <corll214@uswest.net>
> To: <bmwmc@lists.ibmwr.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 7:08 PM
> Subject: BMW: risks
>
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:00:11 -0400
From: "Barry P. Blank, Ph.D." <PsychB@Concentric.Net>
Subject: Re: BMW: Battery Tender
Flash, you wrote:
>
> i've noticed that the battery tender on my r11rsl stays red after it's been
> plugged in all night long -- usually 12 - 14 hours. this is on a battery about
> 6 months old.
>
> if i don't use the BT, i still get GPS faults if i leave the bmw alarm on (that
> is, armed) all night.
>
> the s.f. dealer, who put in the new battery, sez it's "fine." i'm just
> confused why it takes so long for the BT to do its job.
>
> any thoughts?
FWIW - My BT on a 1+ yr old R11RS and battery turns to green after 2
minutes (I routinely plug it in every night). Methinks your battery is
shot! I would have it rechecked - either in front of me or by another
dealer. (Or there is something amiss with that bmw alarm.)
- --
Regards,
Barry ('98 R1100RS)
Roslyn Heights, New York
Ride hard and ride well.
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:13:37 -0400
From: "Barry P. Blank, Ph.D." <PsychB@Concentric.Net>
Subject: Re: BMW: Arai Helmet Lube
Jon, you wrote:
<snip>
> it works great on Multivariotankbag zippers (tip from Bob Weis).
Great tip - just used up the bottle on the zippers. Much better now.
Thanks to you and to Bob Weis.
- --
Regards,
Barry ('98 R1100RS)
Roslyn Heights, New York
Ride hard and ride well.
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:26:39 -0400
From: Thomas Furtado <tfurtado@capecod.net>
Subject: BMW: Seat Help
Dear Pres'& BMW brain trust,
Question: Will a "Corbin Rumble Seat" from a K1100RS fit a 85 K100? If
not what, if any modifications, would have to be made to the 85 to make
this seat fit.
TIA see you at Rhine beck
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 21:41:17 -0500
From: Fleck <jjlfleck@netnitco.net>
Subject: BMW: (no subject)
> I'm curious... what is a 'Spyderco Delica'?
>
A great pocket knife. See:
www.spyderco.com/knife/cat_lwc10_11.html
Larry Fleck
K12LT
Michigan City, IN
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:40:03 EDT
From: EsquireTed@aol.com
Subject: Re: BMW: Boots & Helmets
Wes:
>Boots: does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes boots (other than
>racing boots a la Alpinestar) with ankle protection? After my recent
>accident I'm looking for such a beast to prevent burns, damage, etc. to my
>ankles should such an event ever re-occur.
Hello All,
The venerable BMW Gore-Tex boots have both armored shins and ankles, plated
hard plastic sewn into the leather and extra padding on the inside. How do I
know? I have a nice big scuff in the thick leather of my left boot where my
motorcycle trapped my foot between itself and the ground as it slid through
an intersection. I thought I had broken my ankle for sure but it was just a
little sore the next day. Besides, the bike ended up sliding on my ankle in
front and the sidecase in back, totally preserving the fairing with but a
tiny scratch or two :)
In my opinion, the BMW Gore-TexBoot is the best designed BMW product
available - Highest quality soft but thick leather, totally waterproof,
comfortable to wear all day long and armored, padded and reinforced in all
the right places. While the soft soles do wear out, you can have a Vibram
sole put on by a talented bootsmith (as several Prez's have reported.)
Ted Verrill
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 99 22:48:18 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@fsm-1.pica.army.mil>
Subject: Re: BMW: Seat Help
>
>Dear Pres'& BMW brain trust,
> Question: Will a "Corbin Rumble Seat" from a K1100RS fit a 85 K100? If
>not what, if any modifications, would have to be made to the 85 to make
>this seat fit.
At a minimum, you would have to fit the late tail section and probably the
late battery covers (wich I think also require the late frame and gas tank).
The 85's are unique!
tom "bookawitz" coradeschi <+> tcora@skylands.ibmwr.org
Skylands (NJ) BMW Riders <+> <skylands.ibmwr.org/sbr/>
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:27:19 EDT
From: Prtyrdr@aol.com
Subject: BMW: Re: LDRider: 200K durability
NON-PRIVATE RESPONSE to Louis the Cypher's PRIVATE e-mail to me.
If it's too cheap to say in public, It's not worth my time.
I make no PERSONAL attacks on anyone. You, however, do.
I have made no modifications to my motorcycle and have taken great care to
maintain it as prescribed. I was taught by my dealer to do the maintenance.
In a classroom setting.
The bike is not on par with BMW''s reputation and it is not the only oilhead
with these problems.
The service, by mechanics whom I think are the most skilled that I have seen
(the guys at this dealership are GOOD), is not in question.
BMW and MY dealer screwed me and others with bad transmissions, oil leaks and
faulty clutches.
If anyone refutes this I feel obligated to state my opinion, as they will
state theirs.
You amuse me... and I like this list.
xoxo,
Ed
Smalley
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:54:54 -0500
From: "S. Rife" <srife@flash.net>
Subject: Re: BMW: battery tender
I think maybe you are referring to the ABS????? Anyway, the fact that
you are leaving the alarm on may be enough current consumption to not allow
the Batt Tender to go in to float mode. If you ride the bike daily, you
really shouldn't need to worry with a Batt Tender. Try disabling the alarm
and see if the Batt Tender functions ok. I would also take the other
gentleman's advise and check the battery with a hydrometer to insure that
you did not get a bad one. Also, you might consider that your charging
system may have a problem. Did the dealer check this out? If so, it may not
be fully charging the battery and the Battery Tender is not left on the bike
long enough (over night) to allow it to charge the battery sufficiently
because of a low state of charge due to your possibly faulty charging
system. You might try leaving it on for about 48 hours to see if it does go
in to float mode eventually (green light). Again, leave the alarm (or
anything else that draws current) disabled. If it does come up to full
charge on the Battery Tender, I would certainly have the charging system on
the bike checked out.
Stan Rife
Houston, TX
srife@flash.net
1999 R 1100RT Batcycle
1978 850 T3 FB project bike
MGNOC 17167
BMWMOA 86491
AMA 274008
TMRA 33117
WD5EWA
- ----- Original Message -----
> From: flash gordon md <flash@docflash.com>
> the bike in question does get ridden daily, to work and back - about 40
> miles. that's year round.
>
> occasionally, i get out for better ride, like when i went to redding for
> bill mayer to make me a new saddle last wednesday. (that's about 500
miles,
> including some exploring of the redding area).
>
> even w/ the daily commute, the gps can fault in the morning if the alarm's
> been on. this, again, with a new battery that's supposedly been rechecked
> by the s.f. bmw dealer.
>
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:45:37 -0500
From: "Glenn F. Boswell" <gboswell@accd.edu>
Subject: BMW: Handlebar Shake K75
Today for the first time I had both hands off the handle
bars as the K75RT was rolling
toward a stop sign, 100' away running about 20mph, and did
the bars shake. It was not
all that bad but I had to put my hands on the bars quickly
to stop the shake. Bike has
33k miles, front tire not that bad but with estimate 6+k
miles (I've put 5+k miles on it
and it wasn't new when I purchased the bike). On an other
make it meant I had bad
steering head bearings. What should I look for to assure it
is the head bearings, I
really don't look forward to teearing down the fairing etc
on this one, or what else
could it be.
Thanks
Boz
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 18:29:48
From: Brian Curry <bmwbrian@voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: BMW: New K design, was K12 ageing..
At 04:13 PM 7/1/99 -0400, Don Eilenberger wrote:
>>Think of with weight you will save:
>>
>>1) More efficient swingarm, stronger and less weight
>
>Howda ya figure?? The hollow swingarms BMW makes are amazingly
>light (very thin castings) - and have never been described
>as 'weak' to me. Ever seen anyone break one? I haven't.
It was reported that in the USCA magazine that someone in England broke a
K75 swing arm on a bike with a sidecar. And I have a picture of a
SERIOUSLY cracked swing arm on a R11GS that highsided into a rock. It can
be done, even if difficultly.
DEERS-SLAYER!!! Two at one time.....
- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian Curry |
K75RTs both coasts | "It's a question of both principle and
Chester Springs, PA | practicality. You can't get at the truth
SoD #23 10% #3 | without pushing people and arguing wholly
KGN- Improving Lives| freely." William Onellion (UW)
Around The World |
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 23:40:28
From: Brian Curry <bmwbrian@voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: BMW: battery tender
At 08:13 AM 7/1/99 -0700, flash gordon md wrote:
>
>i've noticed that the battery tender on my r11rsl stays red after it's been
>plugged in all night long -- usually 12 - 14 hours. this is on a battery
about
>6 months old.
>
>if i don't use the BT, i still get GPS faults if i leave the bmw alarm on
(that
>is, armed) all night.
>
>the s.f. dealer, who put in the new battery, sez it's "fine." i'm just
>confused why it takes so long for the BT to do its job.
Ummm.... How did the SF dealer come to the conclusion that it is "fine"?
By test or intuition??? (I just put a battery in there, it has to be fine...)
An alarm can take a surprising amount of charge out of the battery, but I
think it should not take you to ABS faults in one night.
One question on the BT Red LED. Is the BT warm to Hot when the light is
on? If it is, the BT is really supplying current. And the battery will
not charge to the point that it transistions to float. (It transistions
when the charge current drops to 0.5A rather than the current limit of
1.25A, based on a BT, not a BT Jr.) If it really takes 12-14 hrs for the
BT to transition, the battery is not healthy. And I would want the dealer
to SHOW ME that it is healthy. Just what tests were done, and why they are
correct. (BMW specifies tests that will determine the health.) As some
others have noted a 4-5 ball hydrometer will give you some indication of
battery health. A 6 month old battery should float all 4 balls on each cell.
Good luck.
DEERS-SLAYER!!! Two at one time.....
- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian Curry |
K75RTs both coasts | "It's a question of both principle and
Chester Springs, PA | practicality. You can't get at the truth
SoD #23 10% #3 | without pushing people and arguing wholly
KGN- Improving Lives| freely." William Onellion (UW)
Around The World |
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:50:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Brick <dbrick@armory.com>
Subject: Re: BMW: Handlebar Shake K75
On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Glenn F. Boswell wrote:
> toward a stop sign, 100' away running about 20mph, and did
> the bars shake. It was not
snippo
> is the head bearings, I
> really don't look forward to teearing down the fairing etc
> on this one, or what else
> could it be.
A getting-worn-out ME33 on your front wheel.
__________________________________________________________________________
David Brick Santa Cruz CA dbrick@armory.com BMW R11RSL RA MOA BOOF etc
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:52:50 -0400
From: "Bruno Valeri" <bvaleri@sprint.ca>
Subject: Re: BMW: 200K durability
> > About the 200K durability claims, I can say this:
> > I prefer BMW motorcycles for my present needs. But I have no illusions
that
> > they offer anything approaching the bulletproof reliability of Honda,
for
> > example.
> >
> > I would bet that if I took a new R1100 RT and a Honda ST1100 and rode
them
> > for 100K miles each and logged all service calls, downtime, and costs,
it
> > wouldn't even be close.
> > BMW entices the rider with the mirage of bulletproof reliability that
> > Honda, in fact, delivers. How often will a K or R engine have been
serviced
> > by the time it reaches 200K miles? And how much will it have cost? How
many
> > total weeks at the dealership?
> >
> > Bruno
> > bvaleri@sprint.ca
> > Montreal, Canada
>
> Bruno,
>
> DATA Please...
>
> Oh BTW Ever read the ST1100 list? Those people sound just like us...
>
> Bruno, it is time to put the Crack pipe down...
>
> Robert
> 88 KRS Special
Crack pipe? What crack pipe? Problems, what problems?? Glitches and down
time, what's that?? All's perfect. There are no problems. They don't exist
;-)
And Robert, don't let anyone tell you anything different. I have it on good
authority that none of it is true ;-) BMW is solid as a rock. Keep the
faith!!
cheers!
Bruno
bvaleri@sprint.ca
Montreal, Canada
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:56:18 +1000
From: "Richard Pass" <richard.pass@anu.edu.au>
Subject: BMW: RE: Handlebar Shake K75
Boz wrote:
>
> Today for the first time I had both hands off the handle
> bars as the K75RT was rolling
> toward a stop sign, 100' away running about 20mph, and did
> the bars shake. It was not
> all that bad but I had to put my hands on the bars quickly
> to stop the shake. Bike has
> 33k miles, front tire not that bad but with estimate 6+k
> miles (I've put 5+k miles on it
> and it wasn't new when I purchased the bike). On an other
> make it meant I had bad
> steering head bearings. What should I look for to assure it
> is the head bearings, I
> really don't look forward to teearing down the fairing etc
> on this one, or what else
> could it be.
>
> Thanks
>
> Boz
Boz,
tearing down the fairing on a KRT is no big deal although it may look a
little daunting the first time. Takes me around 30 - 45 mins max. A
cordless drill with a phillips bit makes it even quicker (but be a bit
careful with it on reassembly).
Of course you may not need to do that. For steering wobble diagnosis see
the ibmwr ktech pages. I think Don "LWEA" Eilenberger recently put a page
up on that.
All the best,
Richard Pass
1984 K100RT - Bermuda Blue
Canberra, Australia
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 00:15:24 EDT
From: BMVOO82RT@aol.com
Subject: BMW: Re : Test stainless steel and other metals
While working on a motorcycle movie filmed in Beverly Mass."Race for
Glory".We had a scene where the markings on a train had to be changed. The
Art director got magnetized vinyl and had it painted with different logos. I
was somewhat skeptical of this and bought a whole bunch of sponge backed
double stick tape as back up. Well! The train was stainless steel,and MAGNETS
DO NOT STICK TO SS. Everyone went beserk,I let them sweat for a while than
asked if they taught this tape would help they couldn't thank me enough for
saving the day(of course crossing my palm with gold would have been nice,but
producers think a hearty handshake is best).
There still is a train in Massachusetts with double stick tape stuck to it.
The moral of this story is get a magnet it tests SS does not stick ,brass( if
it sticks its plated )and other plated metals.Never leave home without it.
George E.Turski
AKA Red Ryder
82 R100RT
81 Ducati Darmah
Venice CA-The Doors Country
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 00:18:34 EDT
From: JRLS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: BMW: Continued History lesson
>I'll beleive that when I see a picture of Richthofen lubing his
>splines.
>
He was flying a Fokker D3 Triplane. The D7s came later and were still in use
at the end of the war. It is all in the details. There is a replica of the D7
at the Reinbeck air museum.
Joe S.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:23:11 +1000
From: "Richard Pass" <richard.pass@anu.edu.au>
Subject: RE: BMW: New K design, was K12 ageing..
Brian Curry wrote:
>
>
> At 04:13 PM 7/1/99 -0400, Don Eilenberger wrote:
>
> >>Think of with weight you will save:
> >>
> >>1) More efficient swingarm, stronger and less weight
> >
> >Howda ya figure?? The hollow swingarms BMW makes are amazingly
> >light (very thin castings) - and have never been described
> >as 'weak' to me. Ever seen anyone break one? I haven't.
>
> It was reported that in the USCA magazine that someone in
> England broke a
> K75 swing arm on a bike with a sidecar. And I have a picture of a
> SERIOUSLY cracked swing arm on a R11GS that highsided into a
> rock. It can
> be done, even if difficultly.
>
> DEERS-SLAYER!!! Two at one time.....
I read a magazine article a couple of years back in which 2 guys set off to
ride right across Australia West to East on dirt. Their bikes were an
R1100GS and a Yamaha (think it was a Tenere or its replacement). About 500
klm into the trip the GS did an end over end and broke the swing arm in two
near the pivot point. There was a photo and it was snapped clean. The guy
retired from the adventure.
All the best,
Richard Pass
1984 K100RT - Bermuda Blue
Canberra, Australia
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 00:24:43 EDT
From: Prtyrdr@aol.com
Subject: BMW: Mr. Cutler
Let me thank you for your reply and please let me apologize to you for my
parting shot.
It was extremely cheap, no matter what the circumstances, and I should not
have taken it.
I have been in the position enough times to recognize when someone tries to
"shoot the messenger" and have never appreciated it myself.
Ed
Smalley
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:31:01 -0600
From: Steven Puig <puig@salnet.net>
Subject: BMW: Boots & Helmets
> Wes asked:
>
> Boots: does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes boots (other than racing boots a la
> Alpinestar) with ankle protection? Helmets: My question is this: Have any of you made
> a change from Shoei to Arai or vice-versa? Why? What are thedifferences other than
> round (Shoei) v. oval (Arai)?
Alpinestar makes non-racing boots with decent protection. The Space Boot works for me &
has is gore tex lined making it water proof too. It's solid black & made for street riding
as opposed to racing. I've got both Arai (RX7) and Shoei (X9, RFR, RF800, VFX) medium
helmets that fit well. The Shoeis are more quiet, but the Arai has more airflow. The Arai
is tighter around the cheeks (other cheekpads are available) while the Shoei has a slightly
fuller fit in my case.
Steven Puig
San Salvador
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