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BMW: Wanderlust 28 - Huntsville, Arkansas Re: BMW: Re : Test stainless steel and other metals BMW: Bent Rim on K1200LT Re: BMW: Boots & Helmets Re: BMW: Re: Boots Re: BMW: Continued History lesson BMW: Conversion formula? BMW: Top Case liner/bag BMW: RE: Conversion formula? RE: Subject: BMW: K75 Tires Re: BMW: Re: LDRider: 200K durability Re: BMW: Handlebar Shake K75 BMW: RE: Top Case liner/bag BMW: K75s ?'s Re: BMW: battery tender Re: BMW: OK so what is more dangerous than motorcycling? Re: BMW: Marlon Wannabes
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 20:19:50 -0700 From: Sam Lepore <lepore@dnai.com> Subject: BMW: Wanderlust 28 - Huntsville, Arkansas DO NOT REPLY to me at DNAI Send comments to wanderlustrider@juno.com - --- "It is well and good to be a seeker, but eventually you must become a finder ..." - a quote on Phyllis' wall, from Jonathan Livingston Seagull Friend Phyllis fed me full of fine food, fabulously fixed, and framed with fancy fixins. Not to mention the Mt. Herman Yummy Bag packed in the saddlebag. (How many people do you know who own their own church?) On the road again, making time to Texas, heading for the first annual Avinger Blueberry Fest and Motorcycle Rally, courtesy of the gentleman blueberry farmer, Herb. Despite Street Atlas telling me the fastest route is 500+ miles, I am going to somehow stretch it out to about 650 miles. Perhaps that man back in Iowa was right about me and maps ... Again I am holding the bridal train at the wedding of the rain gods - close enough to see everthing, but not part of the ceremony. The day before I got to Kansas, Phyllis woke up to the sound of missiles being thrown against her house. She looked out and said the sky was green. It wasn't quite a tornado, but the 80+ mph winds made some new toothpick sculptures out of barns and trees near her. Yesterday, my rest day, it rained enough for frogs to buy boots. Today, I was tailing the trailing edge of the cloudline, never quite wet, but never on dry roads. The one time it started sprinkling, it was suddenly time to delve into the Yummy Bag. Say this should be interesting ... Jon Diaz and me at the same event. Suppose it will rain on one side of the campground? Because of all the moisture still in the air, a thick damp fog had settled on the bike, coating it with a wet gloss. When I rode away, I saw something I've never heard any other BMW rider talk about. There is a large 4 inch circular "watermark" of the BMW Roundel in the plastic windshield. (The K75 RT has the same windshield as the K1100LT.) I've never seen it in any side light, but it was quite visible in the damp gloss. When the windshield dried from air flow, the watermark disappeared. I rode along trying to look at the windshield from every angle, probably making watchers think I was doing aerobatics on the seat, but I could never see it again. Speaking of the bike, the tire for which I had called ahead at Engle Motors was not there. Herein lies a tale of good customer service, and no customer awareness. When I walked in and said I had come for the tire, the young man at the parts counter said, "Didn't come. Maybe tomorrow." And went back to his conversation about the weekend with his buddy. I'll spare you the rest of our exchange ... you've probably played Hangman and recognize what happens when someone uses up all his letters - if I had a rope! Then Rick, a BMW rider himself and a man who knows why riders come to his business, talked to me and realized "tomorrow" was shall we say inconvenient? He arranged for another vendor in town to sell the tire I needed, and he saw to it the tire was mounted pronto. He even found it at a significant discount over what he could have sold it. Thank you Rick. Riding along the gentle rises of southeast Kansas, every time I crested a hill, I could almost reach up and touch the clouds. They are so low and they have such flat bottoms that they are like atmospheric packaging material. Then in Missouri, the land texture changed with more hills and river valleys, pushing the clouds higher and roughing them up a little. One thing about the farms around here surprises me a little. There are quite a few that have llamas in pastures. I've seen a few large llama ranches out west, but not a small number of animals on several different farms, like here. Was there a vogue trend of llama raising that I missed? I haven't heard about them being used for anything special ... and there sure as hell are not any Himalayas or Andes in THIS area that need them! Crossing the border into Arkansas was another magic boundary. Although the Missouri roads are very pleasant, suddenly in the "mozarks" there are twists, turns, and drop offs like the Sierra Nevada foothills. Route 23 south from Eureka Springs is a wonderful road that I found (and was later recommended to me) when I went to the IBMWR Blast To Branson. This was my second passage over it, and yes I still like it, but I did not remember how plastic and tourist-trappy Eureka Springs is. Skip it. Rolling south on 23, I noticed a turtle crossing the centerline of the road. Thinking first "what a hazard that would be for a bike wheel", then wondering if it was going to make it across, I stopped about 1/4 mile down the road and turned around. One pickup truck had passed in the opposite direction during my deceleration. When I went back to the spot ... there was no turtle. Not on the road, not squashed beside the road, and not visible in the grass. Did it get hit and propelled? Or was it fast enough? We won't ask why did the turtle cross the road. Dirty, dirty bike. I hope Herb can come through with those cheerleaders he promised would perform a benefit bike wash ... Blooberries here I come. FuelPlus 295 miles, 5:53 hours, 51 mph average Osage City KS31 US59 US54 MO43 MO86 MO37 US62 AR23 Huntsville Plans - Blueberries, Cajun Country down to Port Barre Sam Lepore, San Francisco ________________ Wanderlust Rider ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 99 0:46:19 EDT From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@fsm-1.pica.army.mil> Subject: Re: BMW: Re : Test stainless steel and other metals George E.Turski: >double stick tape as back up. Well! The train was stainless steel,and MAGNETS >DO NOT STICK TO SS. Magnets do not stick to non-magnetic stainless steels. Not all grades of SS are non-magnetic. tom "bookawitz" coradeschi <+> tcora@skylands.ibmwr.org Skylands (NJ) BMW Riders <+> <skylands.ibmwr.org/sbr/> ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:53:32 -0500 From: "Richard T. Smith" <rts60@mindspring.com> Subject: BMW: Bent Rim on K1200LT Managed to find a pot-hole in Lexington, TN on my way home from the Honda Hoot and managed to bend the front rim. After screaming profanities at the TN Hiway department and myself, limped into Cincinnati where the folks at Tri-State BMW where kind enough to swap a new one from one of their LT's on the floor. (To my surprise they had two Chapagne K1200 LT's on the back, unsold. A Custom and an Icon.)So anyone out there looking for a new K1200LT give them a call. I cannot say enough about the extraordinary service I received from these people. Even loaned me a new 650 to head down to Skyline Chili so I could slam some chili dogs while my bike was being worked on. I am new to the group and a first time BMW owner, and the people who I meet have been nothing short of exceptional. By the way, the BMW demo team where very busy at the Hoot' and lines for the BMW demo's were the first to sell out every day..the Wingers were beside themselves over the new LT: everywhere I went, this bike attracted a crowd. ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:13:26 -0400 From: Erik Miner <axeis@pluto.njcc.com> Subject: Re: BMW: Boots & Helmets Wes, Arai has two different shell shapes Signet/e is a more long oval, Quantum/e is a more round shape. You should try on both, one will fit better. There are no other differences between them. As for going from a Shoei to an Arai... Nothing is a comfortable as an Arai so why? bother :-)) As for boots with ankle armor look no futher than the wonderful BMW Goretex boots. Armor for ankles, shins, heel. Comfortable as all getout and water proof! Dainese also makes a very nice boot, the "Dryline Touring". Prexport also makes a really nice boot. Erik Boots: does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes boots (other than >racing boots a la Alpinestar) with ankle protection? After my recent >accident I'm looking for such a beast to prevent burns, damage, etc. to my >ankles should such an event ever re-occur. > >Helmets: again, after my accident I'm forced to replace my helmet. It was >a Shoei RF-800 and it took me about 6 months to get it properly broken in. >I am replacing it with a same-size Arai Signet/e, which fit my head off the >shelf like the broken-in Shoei had. My question is this: Have any of you >made a change from Shoei to Arai or vice-versa? Why? What are the >differences other than round (Shoei) v. oval (Arai)? > >Thanks! > >--wes ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 00:39:42 -0400 From: "Robert E. McCarthy" <remccart@erols.com> Subject: Re: BMW: Re: Boots <snip> John Filak wrote: > >Another option is to go with a cousin to the cowboy boot, >>commonly known out west as "goat ropers" (an insulting >>term for people who wear these), or just simply "ropers." >>These boots are like cowboy boots, but with > >flatter, full profile heels and roundy toes. <snip> Howard wrote: > Not only would I agree about ropers, they are my favorite >boot for riding. I have three pairs of Justins and one pair is >a "Motorcycle Roper," the regular Roper lath, heavier leather >and a excellent rubber sole. The ONLY problem is that they >look so good, and the polish is so nice on those, I hate to >ruin the nice polish on the bike. Me three. My Justins are a year old, work great for business casual, keep my feet warm under those Cruiser jugs and have never leaked so far during several 1-3 hour thunderstorms. The Cruiser does tend to scar up the finish on top of the right boot with a rookie rider trying not to ride the rear brake. Beautiful streamlined boots. Bob McCarthy North Virginia 1998 R1200C ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 00:55:55 EDT From: JRLS@aol.com Subject: Re: BMW: Continued History lesson >>I checed out the names of the WWI German and Austrian Air Military >>Organizations. Here is what I found. >>German: Imperial German Air Service >>Austrian: LuftFliegler Truppe > >Wouldn't the German air force's name be in German? > Yes, but my source gave the info in translation. I will continue on the search. Joe S. ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 01:07:42 EDT From: JSR993@aol.com Subject: BMW: Conversion formula? Dear Prezzes.. Can one of you please give me the conversion formula to convert "Bar" into lbs/sq/inch for my tire pressure? I don't know why I can't remember... help..lol... Colorado Jeff ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 22:30:42 -0700 From: Steve Pribula <spribula@redshift.com> Subject: BMW: Top Case liner/bag Ahem, Misplaced the information (darn, never done that before!!) on how to reach Helen2Wheels - would someone please pass the phone number and email addy for her. Many thanks Steve '99R1100RS ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:28:02 -0700 From: "Mulrooney, Patrick" <pat@compaq.com> Subject: BMW: RE: Conversion formula? Jeff, > Can one of you please give me the conversion formula to convert > "Bar" into lbs/sq/inch for my tire pressure? To convert from bar to psi multiply by: 14.503774 To convert from psi to bar multiply by: 0.06894757 Or use a web page: www.webcom.com/legacysy/convert2/press.html Or you can look at a table: www.bridgestone-tyres.com/charts.htm BAR PSI BAR PSI 1.5 22 2.3 33 1.6 23 2.4 34 1.7 24 2.5 36 1.8 26 2.6 37 1.9 28 2.7 39 2.0 29 2.8 40 2.1 30 2.9 42 2.2 32 4.0 44 -pat ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:34:41 From: Brian Curry <bmwbrian@voicenet.com> Subject: RE: Subject: BMW: K75 Tires At 09:28 AM 7/2/99 +1000, Richard Pass wrote: >> >Funny, that's what my manual says too so that's what I run my tyres at. >Works fine for me. From memory, the 39 and 42 are for sustained speeds >above 112 MPH with passenger/luggage which is not my wont. The "new guys" :):) missed the great tire pressure debate, but the short and sweet is that the manual, and markings are "guides". Places to start. And can vary between brands. And if you talk to the tire manufacturers, if you have the "proper" pressure, it will rise 10% from the cold, not run value, to the Hot, loaded with gear adn running at typical conditions for 30 minutes value. Have fun. DEERS-SLAYER!!! Two at one time..... - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Curry | K75RTs both coasts | "It's a question of both principle and Chester Springs, PA | practicality. You can't get at the truth SoD #23 10% #3 | without pushing people and arguing wholly KGN- Improving Lives| freely." William Onellion (UW) Around The World | ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:39:06 From: Brian Curry <bmwbrian@voicenet.com> Subject: Re: BMW: Re: LDRider: 200K durability At 07:46 PM 7/1/99 EDT, Prtyrdr@aol.com wrote: >By the way, Mine is significantly flawed, as are MANY others. THAT is what I >tell people. Several riders out of several hundred is only a couple percent >reliable isn't it? HOWEVER, several dozen out of several hundred is, isn't >it? But that, as I said, isn't the point. I stated the REGRETTABLE, MOST >UNFORTUNATE point. Ummm.... Supporting data??? How large a sample size? Verified by whom? Or is it a "personal problem". I might think that after reading the para that preceded this: >I NEVER said that all boxers, or all BMW's, or all oilheads were >significantly flawed. My point is that if you own one that is you are SCREWED >just like me. Get rid of the bike if it isn't fixed when the warranty comes >up. Sounds like an attitude problem across the counter. And no idea who is right or wrong, but there definitely is a BAD ATTITUDE. DEERS-SLAYER!!! Two at one time..... - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Curry | K75RTs both coasts | "It's a question of both principle and Chester Springs, PA | practicality. You can't get at the truth SoD #23 10% #3 | without pushing people and arguing wholly KGN- Improving Lives| freely." William Onellion (UW) Around The World | ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:53:14 From: Brian Curry <bmwbrian@voicenet.com> Subject: Re: BMW: Handlebar Shake K75 At 10:45 PM 7/1/99 -0500, Glenn F. Boswell wrote: > >Today for the first time I had both hands off the handle >bars as the K75RT was rolling >toward a stop sign, 100' away running about 20mph, and did >the bars shake. It was not >all that bad but I had to put my hands on the bars quickly >to stop the shake. Bike has >33k miles, front tire not that bad but with estimate 6+k >miles (I've put 5+k miles on it >and it wasn't new when I purchased the bike). On an other It can be the tire. >make it meant I had bad >steering head bearings. What should I look for to assure it >is the head bearings, I Adjust them. If you take them a bit snug, and you can feel a notch they are toast. It sounds like they are too loose. And if they have been loose for too long, they are toast. >really don't look forward to teearing down the fairing etc >on this one, or what else >could it be. Taking off the fairing is not that bad. Bike looks funny with it off though. And really you probably can do it with the fairing on, but the windshield off. Scott Conary, just did his. Ask him. Oh, and your line lengths are hosed. Good luck. DEERS-SLAYER!!! Two at one time..... - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Curry | K75RTs both coasts | "It's a question of both principle and Chester Springs, PA | practicality. You can't get at the truth SoD #23 10% #3 | without pushing people and arguing wholly KGN- Improving Lives| freely." William Onellion (UW) Around The World | ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:36:02 -0700 From: "Mulrooney, Patrick" <pat@compaq.com> Subject: BMW: RE: Top Case liner/bag > Misplaced the information (darn, never done that > before!!) on how to reach Helen2Wheels - would someone > please pass the phone number and email addy for her. Helen Twowheels - the BEST bag lady Super Packing System 616 Barber Ann Arbor MI 48103 734-761-4988 email helen2wheels@mindspring.com eagle.onr.com/ibmwr/prodreview/helen2w.html ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:41:02 -0700 From: "Jim Hancock" <hancockjw@shasta.com> Subject: BMW: K75s ?'s I recently bought a used '92 K75s with 32k miles. The bike is in good condition. There is a slight engine vibration-noise from idle to 2,000rpm (+ or - 200rpm) that goes away comlpetely at the 2000 mark. It's similiar in volume and intensity to the cooling fan coming on. It's slight but there, and I wonder if it's characteristic of K75's, or a potential problem. The bike runs very well. Another question for the mechanic types. Is it possible to bleed the ABS brake systems at home, without some type of pressurized brake fluid tool? Regards, Jim Hancock ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 23:11:45 -0700 From: flash gordon md <flash@docflash.com> Subject: Re: BMW: battery tender At 11:40 PM 7/1/99 +0000, Brian Curry wrote: >At 08:13 AM 7/1/99 -0700, flash gordon md wrote: >> >>i've noticed that the battery tender on my r11rsl stays red after it's been >>plugged in all night long -- usually 12 - 14 hours. this is on a battery >about >>6 months old. >> >>if i don't use the BT, i still get GPS faults if i leave the bmw alarm on >(that >>is, armed) all night. >> >>the s.f. dealer, who put in the new battery, sez it's "fine." i'm just >>confused why it takes so long for the BT to do its job. > >Ummm.... How did the SF dealer come to the conclusion that it is "fine"? >By test or intuition??? (I just put a battery in there, it has to be fine...) he sez he "checked" it. don't know just how. i should specifically ask if he did a load test, or if he checked the electrolytes, i guess. > >An alarm can take a surprising amount of charge out of the battery, but I >think it should not take you to ABS faults in one night. agreed. > >One question on the BT Red LED. Is the BT warm to Hot when the light is >on? If it is, the BT is really supplying current. And the battery will >not charge to the point that it transistions to float. (It transistions >when the charge current drops to 0.5A rather than the current limit of >1.25A, based on a BT, not a BT Jr.) If it really takes 12-14 hrs for the >BT to transition, the battery is not healthy. And I would want the dealer >to SHOW ME that it is healthy. Just what tests were done, and why they are >correct. (BMW specifies tests that will determine the health.) As some >others have noted a 4-5 ball hydrometer will give you some indication of >battery health. A 6 month old battery should float all 4 balls on each cell. good point. now, if i could only *find* the *%#@!!! battery in my r11rsl . . . %^) "Trust the computer industry to shorten "Year 2000" to Y2K-- that's what caused the problem in the first place!" flash gordon, md || www.docflash.com flash@docflash.com || haight ashbury, san francisco ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 14:11:14 +0800 From: "Mark Secker" <m.secker@ecu.edu.au> Subject: Re: BMW: OK so what is more dangerous than motorcycling? > >Mark writes: > >>Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 12:37:59 +0800 >>> From: "Mark Secker" <m.secker@ecu.edu.au>=20 >>Subject: BMW: OK so what is more dangerous than motorcycling? > >>Like some people on this list I've had people (friends, relatives, =3D >>strangers...)say things to me like "ow how can you ride a bike? They >are =3D >>SOOO dangerous". > >I think Rick Seiman put it best: "... we ride because we are the last >remnants of what little genuine spirit remains in our society and world >as we know it". Damnit, I like that quote! I've spoken to mountain climbers and ocean sailors and these people seem = to share in common with many motorcyclists (tourers mostly) the spirit of = adventure, a sense of being the last true explorers in this age of = satellite imaging and global communications. With out wanting to get metaphysical - the greatest journeys are those of = the soul. Who wants to die with out having put their foot out the door and at least = taken the first steps on the road of life? > >Rick wrote an excellent piece on this very subject in this month's Old >Bike Journal. It's a good read. Check it out. > - --------------------------------------------------------- Mark Secker=20 m.secker@cowan.edu.au IT Div. Support Officer FBPM MIS Tutor On your deathbed, it is highly unlikely you will regret not spending more = time at the office. . .=20 Anon. ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 14:24:33 +0800 From: "Mark Secker" <m.secker@ecu.edu.au> Subject: Re: BMW: Marlon Wannabes SEE below for myth buster - Fact is that I've had motorcyclists who claim = to have seen "The Wild One" "more times than you've had hot dinners" will = argue with me till they are blue in the face and then do a dummy spit when = the realise they were wrong. > >Scott Conary <fercon@reno.rmci.net> notes: > >>Harleys? More of the middle aged set. Maybe they see those curves >>and>chrome and remember the cars they grew up in. Toss in Marlon Brando >>in>leather and they get both nostalgia and the ego boost. ( as well as >>a>way to feel like they belong to a group outside of their >>normal>sheltered suburban lives ) >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >Scott, > >ROTFLMAO! Yeah. Middle-aged Marlon Wannabes. Yeah. Marlon in "The = Wild >One". > >Trouble is, most of these guys *look* like Marlon. Marlon now. Marlon = the >Whale. Marlon the Supertanker. Not sleek, slim, svelte, badass Fifties >Marlon... > >Of course, they're now a perfect match for their Milwaukee mounts! =3D:) > >Jim > >+----------------------------------------------+ >| jfbrown@power.net (J.F. Brown) | >| Net Surfin' from Redondo Beach, California | >+----------------------------------------------+ > > ************************************************** MYTH BUSTER AHEAD>>>>>=20 Q: Marlon Brando "rode" WHAT make of bike in the Wild One? See answer below. \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ A: Triumph. PS: to Austrailian readers - remember when the "Chicko Roll"[tm.] bike = was a Vincent (a true superbike of its time with a strong Australian link = via Phil Irving)? Sad days indeed when they changed it to a Harley.... - --------------------------------------------------------- Mark Secker=20 m.secker@cowan.edu.au IT Div. Support Officer FBPM MIS Tutor On your deathbed, it is highly unlikely you will regret not spending more = time at the office. . .=20 Anon. ------------------------------ End of BMW-Digest V1999 #1181 *****************************
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