Re: BMW: valve adjustment tools for older K-bikes BMW: Re: Valve Adjustment Tips BMW: Re: re: glue to hold velcro BMW: re: glue to hold velcro BMW: Re: Older Rider's Research BMW: Accident stats Re: BMW: Re: Valve Adjustment Tips BMW: Re: BMW-Question from global travellers BMW: Entering into Canada Re: BMW: Air Pump Re: BMW: Re: BMW-Question from global travellers BMW: Re: CLASS school and boots BMW: Re: BMW - Map light bulb replacement BMW: Re: BMW-Dual disc question BMW: Re: BMW-Valve Adjustment Tips Needed BMW: canadian imports BMW: Valve story revealed in beheaded Rubber Cow! BMW: valve adjust help needed BMW: lynn's 50th Birthday Directions BMW: repair manual k75s Re: BMW: System 4 Helmet Question BMW: Final Texas Blueberry Blast Report
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:19:14 -0600
From: drbob27@ibm.net
Subject: Re: BMW: valve adjustment tools for older K-bikes
> Does anyone know of a good substitute for BMW's valve spring depressor
> lever for the older K's?
From the Clymer manual: "As is typical with all Clymer books,
we try to suggest substitute tools wherever possible - this is NOT the
procedure for substitute tools. Use only the BMW special tools."
My philosophy is to measure them myself and have the dealer
adjust when necessary. In 36,000 miles it's been necessary once.
bob
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:23:07 -0400
From: Manny Puerta <73101.65@compuserve.com>
Subject: BMW: Re: Valve Adjustment Tips
John Morganfield <jmorganfield@cfi-hollywood.com> wrote:
>>What is the TECHNIQUE the
experienced wrenches use for making this adjustment? Do you guys/gals
insert
feeler, then adjust down onto it?<<
Yes.
>> How much drag am I looking for?<<
Just enough drag to feel SOME friction while sliding the feeler back and
forth without bending the feeler gage. After you tighten the screw, try
sliding the feeler in again to check if the clearance has changed any. If
it feels the same, try the next size LARGER feeler (.001" larger). If it
doesn't slide in, the clearance is correct. If it does, repeat the process
until it is right. Initially it can take a few tries until you get the
"feel" of it.
For an oilhead with two intake and exhaust valves, use TWO feelers
simultaneously, one on each intake or exhaust valve to eliminate "rocking"
during the procedure.
Manny
R11GS/KLX650/DR125
Nevada/Alaska, USA
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:39:09 -0400
From: "Bruno Valeri" <bvaleri@sprint.ca>
Subject: BMW: Re: re: glue to hold velcro
Aaron Bockelie (Volt Computer) <a-aarob@microsoft.com wrote:
> A good glue to use would be a cyanoacrylite (sp?) type glue.
> Basically, super-glue.
Aaron,
Over the years, the only uses I found it excelled at was gluing skin ie
fingers hands etc; also plastic ie used in model planes etc. I understand
that the cyanoacrylite glue sold in model shops has higher concentration
than the regular SuperGlue brand. But still, from my experience, I have
found it effective in narrow range of materials.
Have you ever had good results with this glue on wood?
cheers!
Bruno
bvaleri@sprint.ca
Montreal, Canada
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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 12:02:56 -0700
From: John Otsuki <john@capcolor.com>
Subject: BMW: re: glue to hold velcro
Aaron has sticky problem:
>I need to glue Velcro to wood.
>Every glue I have tried has failed, especially once the temperature rises.
Aaron,
At work, we do this quite often. We use a product called "Liquid Nails." I use this stuff like some use Duct Tape. Works on just about anything. I don't know wabout it's thermal characteristics, but it's one of the few products out there that does a good job of sticking to glue. You can find it at any hardware store for about $2.00 for a chaulking tube.
- -john-
- -john otsuki- www.bmwcruiser.com
santa clara, ca
The Unofficial R1200C Cruiser Home Page "CHP"
'98 R1200C "Elfenbein" SOB#15
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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 14:11:34 -0500
From: Frank Glamser <fglamser@earthlink.net>
Subject: BMW: Re: Older Rider's Research
Hi Miles,
Thanks for your interest. The wheels of academe grind slowly, so I have little
to report. I'll make the initial paper available online for everyone this fall.
For now let me say that most of us started on scooters or motorbikes for
transportation or fun and low cost was a factor. Quite a few folks started
riding in middle age after raising children or working too hard. It should be an
interesting read. I've got about 100 respondents, but could use more.
Frank Glamser <fglamser@earthlink.net>
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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 12:18:58 +0000
From: "Conary" <fercon@reno.rmci.net>
Subject: BMW: Accident stats
I'm posting this request again in hopes of scaring up some more
responses. Thanks,
Scott Conary -'91 K75s - Reno, NV
home.reno.rmci.net/fercon/
- -----
This isn't a fun topic, but it came up when I was telling my wife
about James's passing.
- -----
In the *last year*, how many prezzes have been in accidents? How many
were seriously injured? I don't know either. The solution? A simple
poll. A poll of the list related to how many accidents, their cause,
and damage in the past *year*.
So if you've been in an accident in the past year, tell me about it
using the simple questions below to describe the incident. I will
tally the results and post them.(maintaining a semblance of privacy of
course ;)
#1. Pick category of cause.( most hazards are of our own making.)
a.Rider failure( ran off road - I did that)
b.Road Hazard( might fall under rider failure ;)
c. Vehicular failure ( again falls under Rider, but this separation
could be informative)
c.Animal( rider.....)
d.Hit by other vehicle.( they didn't yield)
f.other - please describe briefly.(e.g. Lowflying aircraft;)
If you could rate the damage on a scale of 1 to 10. (10 being the
worst. e.g. totaled bike)
#2.Bike damage - 1 to 10
#3.Bodily injuries -1 to 10
Not fun, but something to think about.( I know I did as I barreled
around a bend in the Mountains with several hundred feet of air below
me to the right) This might seem like a topic best left alone, but as
a fellow prez put it,"... the more we examine our mishaps, the more
we're likely to avoid them next time."
What I did.
#1. a
#2. 3
#3. 2
Thank you,
Scott Conary -'91 K75s - Reno, NV
home.reno.rmci.net/fercon/
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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 15:14:37 -0400
From: "Philip E. Rose" <prose@draper.com>
Subject: Re: BMW: Re: Valve Adjustment Tips
John and Manny,
It is also good practice to roll the rocker arm in towards the cam with
your hand, while checking the adjustment. This removes all of the slack,
and is amazing how much of a difference it makes.
Cheers, Phil Rose
>
>Just enough drag to feel SOME friction while sliding the feeler back and
>forth without bending the feeler gage. After you tighten the screw, try
>sliding the feeler in again to check if the clearance has changed any. If
>it feels the same, try the next size LARGER feeler (.001" larger). If it
>doesn't slide in, the clearance is correct. If it does, repeat the process
>until it is right. Initially it can take a few tries until you get the
>"feel" of it.
>
>For an oilhead with two intake and exhaust valves, use TWO feelers
>simultaneously, one on each intake or exhaust valve to eliminate "rocking"
>during the procedure.
>
>Manny
>R11GS/KLX650/DR125
>Nevada/Alaska, USA
>
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:43:00 EDT
From: MMatti1400@aol.com
Subject: BMW: Re: BMW-Question from global travellers
Fellow Prezzes:
Most of you know about Erin and Chris Ratay who are currently touring the
world on a GS and a 650. (See their web site at www.ultimatejourney.com\)
Erin poses the following question which I pass on to the far wiser and more
experienced denizens of the list:
"I have also developed a rear "wiggle/waggle" when I hit about 75mph. It
started in Italy, just after I replaced my rear tire. I hope the new shock
will correct the problem. Chris also has a bad wiggle at high speeds and
also at low speeds. We thought that replacing his tires would do it but it
is still a problem. So far no one can diagnose it except for saying that we
have too much weight on the bikes. Rudi (Belgian BMW wrench)
doesn't think this is the reason as we are still not at the maximum weights
for both bikes. Any thoughts?"
Your comments would be most
appreciated by this intrepid duo riding their dream trip.
Regards and TIA
Mark Mattison
New Canaan, Conn.
"97 F650 "Meistersinger"
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:47:11 -0400
From: "Allan Potvin" <apotvin@rmiinspectorate.com>
Subject: BMW: Entering into Canada
Had the pleasure of crossing US/Can borders often lately. One thing
I've noticed recently.
Beware, student customs officers in training on Canadian side, enter
at your own risk.
Al
Pte-Claire
K100RS
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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 12:56:30 PDT
From: "Howard " <bfbiker@excite.com>
Subject: Re: BMW: Air Pump
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:02:56 -0400, James Colburn wrote:
> I picked up a little bycle pump from REI that... works,
> although filling up a whole tire would probably take days....
Ditto all the similar BMW pumps I've owned. Haven't been following this
thread so forgive if Im repeating another prez. I bought a 12v pump. Box
was a foot square and mostly MT. The pump itself fits in a coffee cup.
Regards. HowardJ
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:13:37 -0400
From: howard.etkind@ohio.doe.gov
Subject: Re: BMW: Re: BMW-Question from global travellers
Lots of thoughts...
Rear tire tread design,
Too high a center of gravity
Worn swing arm pivots
Out of balance wheel, tire
Bent rear rim
wind buffeting on bike and load
But without examining the bike, can't really tell.
Howard
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: BMW: Re: BMW-Question from global travellers
Author: MMatti1400@aol.com at internet
Date: 7/6/99 3:43 PM
Fellow Prezzes:
Most of you know about Erin and Chris Ratay who are currently touring the
world on a GS and a 650. (See their web site at www.ultimatejourney.com\)
Erin poses the following question which I pass on to the far wiser and more
experienced denizens of the list:
"I have also developed a rear "wiggle/waggle" when I hit about 75mph. It
started in Italy, just after I replaced my rear tire. I hope the new shock
will correct the problem. Chris also has a bad wiggle at high speeds and
also at low speeds. We thought that replacing his tires would do it but it
is still a problem. So far no one can diagnose it except for saying that we
have too much weight on the bikes. Rudi (Belgian BMW wrench)
doesn't think this is the reason as we are still not at the maximum weights
for both bikes. Any thoughts?"
Your comments would be most
appreciated by this intrepid duo riding their dream trip.
Regards and TIA
Mark Mattison
New Canaan, Conn.
"97 F650 "Meistersinger"
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:37:19 -0700
From: "Anne &/or Peter Lizdas" <aplizdas@elite.net>
Subject: BMW: Re: CLASS school and boots
President McCulley,
I've had a session with Reg Pridmore's CLASS. Very worthwhile. Don't worry
about maybe not being the swiftest rider out there, & don't be shy to ask
for help - after all, you paid for it. Take a ride around the track on the
back of Reg's or Jason's bike if you get the chance - its quite an
eye-opener. You'll find yourself going by "average" riders (like me) at
what seems twice the speed, yet in the smoothest, most unhurried way you can
imagine. As for the boots, I believe the only requirement is that they go
higher than your ankle. Have otherwise adequate sport-riding gear
(Aerostitch or similar suits OK), new, or close to new, tires, bike in good
working order with no fluid leaks, & you're all set. Get a good night's
rest, & when you get tired toward the end of the day, as you will, take a
break. You can't learn much when you're exhausted anyway, & you will have
more than enough time on the track. Learn a lot & have fun.
Pete Lizdas, in Merced, CA
"Gateway to Yosemite"
'94 R1100RS, '95 R1100GS
- -----Original Message-----
From: Thomas C. McCulley <Thomas_McCulley@compuserve.com>
To: INTERNET:bmwmc@lists.ibmwr.org <bmwmc@lists.ibmwr.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 7:25 AM
Subject: BMW: CLASS school and boots
I'm signed up for Reg Pridmore's CLASS school at Road Atlanta next week and
I'm wondering if any Prezzes have experiences with his program. I'm also
wondering if my Magnum boots will pass the equipment rules. Anybody with
input?
Thomas
Marco Island, FL
'94 Honda CB1000
'97 BMW R1100rt
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 14:25:50 -0700
From: "P.H. Marvin" <valcyr@flash.net>
Subject: BMW: Re: BMW - Map light bulb replacement
BOB shaffer wrote...
<<Hello to all, need advice on how to get to the map light bulb to
<<tighten or replace it on a 96 KLT.
Bob, when you find out, please let me know. I just looked in my
micrifiche shop manual (worthless, by the way) and could find NO
reference to the map light.
Ride Safe,
Phil '96 K1100LT
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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 15:28:30 -0700
From: "P.H. Marvin" <valcyr@flash.net>
Subject: BMW: Re: BMW-Dual disc question
Alfie asked....
let me rephrase my questions a little:
1: What bikes/earliest years have a handle bar mounted master cylinder?
2: What bikes can I pull parts off to do the conversion?
3: becides the obvious (extra disk, extra caliper) what are the major
changes that have to happen. Do I need new forks? wheels?
I'll answer what i can:
1. The 1981 model year was the change from master cylinder under tank to
cylinder on handlebar. They are NOT all the same! BMW has used pistons
from 12mm through 16mm. My early '81 R100RT had 16mm; both my '84 RS's
had 15mm.
2. '81 through '84 R80 and R100 models. R65 brake components (Brembo)
are compatible, but I think the forks and sliders are specific to the
R65.
3. Wheels are the same. Forks are different, starting in 1981. They
are the same '70-'80, all models, and, again, the same '81-'84 for all
R100 models and R80 and R80RT. I'm not sure about R80G/S nor R80ST. I
really think you will need complete forks (damper rods, etc.), sliders,
calipers, brake lines, brake light switch and a 15mm master cylinder
(the number is stamped underneath). Good Luck! If I can help, let me
know. I'm in El Paso.
Ride Safe,
Phil '96 K1100LT
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:41:13 -0400
From: "Bob Hancock" <bhancock@email.msn.com>
Subject: BMW: Re: BMW-Valve Adjustment Tips Needed
>> From: John Morganfield <jmorganfield@cfi-hollywood.com>
>Subject: BMW: Valve Adjustment Tips Needed!
>
>Between tennis and stuffing my face with bbq all weekend, I did manage to
>get some things done. While adjusting valve clearances, a moment of
>indecision arose. The manual says to adjust until there is a drag on the
>feeler. As I was performing this, that description seemed insufficient, and
>I feared I was not measuring clearance properly. What is the TECHNIQUE the
>experienced wrenches use for making this adjustment? Do you guys/gals
insert
>feeler, then adjust down onto it? How much drag am I looking for?
>Thanks!
>
>John Morganfield
>Titles & Optical X260
>jmorganfield@cfi-hollywood.com
John,
The key to understanding the "feel" of the "drag" was explained thusly to
me many moons ago.....if you have a round lost screw retrieval magnet,
lightly oil it and lay the feeler gauge across it. Drag it back and forth.
That's about what it oughta feel like as you turn the adjuster down. Be
careful to check after you've tightened it as it quite often
changes.....just gotta mess with it some.
Hope this helps,
Bob
'98R11RT
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:33:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Clifford Scridlow <scridlow@yahoo.com>
Subject: BMW: canadian imports
importing from canada is easy. u must find a licensed importer (there
are about a hundred in the country and they generally live in border
areas). they handle all paperwork and the process takes well under 30
days. i can't think of the guys name that we have used but he lives in
constable ny and is listed as such in the phone book. (i am traveling
or i would look it up). Fees are US$400 to the importer and 4% to US
Customs. Vehicles sold in Canada are generally US compliant if they
are of recent vintage and there is no requirement to change the
speedometer. if anyone really wants to do this please reply off list
and i will get you a name and telephone number. regards. -cliff
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:12:21 -0500
From: "SNYDER, LARRY [FND/1005]" <LARRY.SNYDER@stl.Monsanto.com>
Subject: BMW: Valve story revealed in beheaded Rubber Cow!
Tonight I checked the valve adjustment on the old '79 R100/7, and there
wasn't enough adjustment to even get a gap on the left side exhaust valve. I
pulled both heads, and the left side exhaust valve has receded way into the
seat. Looks ugly. All three other valves look quite good.
I'm going to get a new valve and seat and have my machine shop put them in.
That should last me a while! I might even get new guides and have those put
in, too. But for now I want a minimal (read: cheap) solution.
And why are BMW valves so expensive? For my Triumph (you know, exotic
British cars) an exhaust valve is $7 or so.
Thanks for all the advice on this - I'll post a tally of how much it will
cost to fix one bad exhaust valve and seat.
Larry
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Larry E. Snyder
Data Architecture & Integration
Life Sciences Informatics
Monsanto Company
larry.snyder@monsanto.com
- ---------------------------------------------- ----------------------
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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 17:19:13 MDT
From: Karl Fittinger <karlfitt@hotmail.com>
Subject: BMW: valve adjust help needed
They way i do it is to put the feeler gauge in and adjust it until I feel
the correct drag. And that is what you should feel for.. drag.
If it moves with no resistance it is too loose, if you can't pull and PUSH
the feeler through the gap feeling a slight drag, I.E. it is hard to pull
through and pushing it bends the feeler gauge, it is too tight.
One other thing you need to watch for is the gap always changes 9At least
for me) when you tighten the locknut.
It depends on your technique but you will notice that it either gets tighter
or looser when you tighten the locknut. Adjust the valves accordingly and
don't take a final reading until after you have tightened the locknuts
('cause that's what the gap will be when you button it all up).
Some people suggest you set the valves a little loose to aid in cooling and
extend seat life. I don't have enough experience to enter that debate but I
do know that if you want to be close and also want the most power without
setting the gaps too tight, If you set a loose .004 (or .008 EX) that the
next bigger gauge will not fit. At least the way I set 'em.
Karl
Colorado
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:39:54 -0400
From: "Ted Hall" <hfrmystr@vermontel.com>
Subject: BMW: lynn's 50th Birthday Directions
July 24 and 25.
Find Mount Holly or Belmont, VT, near Rutland and Ludlow
Map says Route 155(N-S)
Map says Route 103(E-W)
Get to tha stores, either The Belmont Store or the Mount Holly Store and
look for the BMW Roundels. I'm at the end of Frost-Hill Road, which is a
dead end(that'll tell you what kind of guy I am)
lynn still doesn't know, so I'm still safe from a lynching, or something
worse:-(
See you in Rhinebeck, then see you here.
If you must
802/259-2427. If a woman answers, its your ass!
Cheers
ted hall
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:44:38 -0400
From: Tim Haas-Operations <timh@citytv.com>
Subject: BMW: repair manual k75s
I have found that you require a phd to understand some of
the manuals I have used in the past.
I plan to tinker on a 1988 k75s it will be my first time playing
with a BMW
Could someone please recommend an idiot proof repair manual
Thank you
Tim
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:56:22 +0900
From: Satoru Manita <satoru@manita.com>
Subject: Re: BMW: System 4 Helmet Question
In a message dated Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:08:20 -0400, James Colburn wrote:
> The System 4 comes with a mesh "thing" underneath the chin guard that is
> supposed to cut down on wind noise (I guess) but it digs into my thick
> neck. Does anyone know how to get this thing off without cutting?
Jim,
I remember that the chin flap is secured with 2 Torx screws at the both
end (nearby the locking latches) and Velcro at the center (nearby the
release lever). Thus the flap can be removed without cutting. You may
have to remove the styrofoam pad from the chin guard to gain access to
the screws and Velcro, though.
I will double-check my System 4 tonight and get back to you on that.
________________________________________________________
Satoru "Sam" MANITA - Saitama JAPAN - BMWRA #21114
aka <satoru@manita.com>
'99 K1200RSA | '91 R100R | '94 F650 | '97 Honda FES250
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:02:19 -0500
From: "Robert W. Munday" <rwmunday@juno.com>
Subject: BMW: Final Texas Blueberry Blast Report
Presidents, Idiots and RATS,
The First Annual Texas Blueberry Blast is over. The blueberries have
been picked. The participants have moved on. The blueberry trees have
been watered from the pond with the Avinger Geyser. All will be quiet
until next year. To keep track of those whom you met at the Blast, the
participants this year were:
Geoff Adams Arlington, TX
Marcia Adams Arlington, TX
Jim Balzrette Shreveport, LA
Martha Black Tyler, TX
Richard Blackwood Shreveport, LA
John Brown Kalamazoo, MI
Linda Brown Commerce, TX
Tom Brown Commerce, TX
Brian Burdette Kansas City, MO
Tom "Bullit" Buttars Vermillion, SD
Kellye Culberth Plano, TX
Gene Dalton Shelbyville, TN
Leonard Davis Richardson, TX
Julie Fox Platte City, MO
Frank Glamser Hattiesburg, MS
Paul Glaves Lawrence, KS
Linda Hedden Ann Arbor, MI
Gil Jones Horseshoe Bay, TX
Alan Leitch San Antonio, TX
Sam Lepore San Francisco, CA
William B. Lewis Everman, TX
Keri Liedtke Carthage TX
Randy Liedtke Carthage TX
Jim Marsh Avinger, TX
LaFuchia Avinger, TX
Jonathan Munday Montgomery, AL
Robert Munday Montgomery, AL
Cissie Myrick Brownwood, TX
Tom Parker Ore City, TX
Kelli Rayburn Dallas, TX
Greg Robinson Plano, TX
Mark Rooney Tyler, TX
Jim Scott Head Of Island, LA
Gary Sibley Dallas, TX
Joe Simkins Richardson, TX
Evelyn Smiles Everman, TX
Bob Smith Tyler, TX
Karen Smith Springfield, MO
Gerald Stark Avinger, TX
Herb Stark Avinger, TX
Wilma Stark Avinger, TX
Keith Stowers Pampa, TX
Michael Tetzlaff Austin, TX
Jack Tollett Fort Worth, TX
Bobby Watson Carthage, TX
Darla Watson Carthage, TX
Bart Welter Shreveport, LA
Becky Welter Shreveport, LA
Tom Willis Sulphur Springs, TX
Jonathan and I had a great time. I can reflect upon sitting by the pond
with Paul Glaves and Tom "Bullit" Buttars watching the Avinger Geyser.
Cissie Myrick now knows the joy of attending a motorcycle rally by car
(Cissie, Frank Glamser never once said he was too cold or asked me to
turn the A/C down). It was great to see the Texas gang, including Jack
Tollett (of the "Waltz Across Texas" event). Wilma and Herb were great
hosts and Herb can cook a mean pot of grits. I was delighted to see that
Keith Stowers is a BMW owner once more with a model more suited for long
distance riding (as in Savannah). Linda "Helen2Wheels" Hedden and Tom
Buttars were polite camping neighbors (my fan drowned out the double
snoring from my tent). Sam Lepore is doing what each of us would like to
do sometime... take a break from life and tour the country on our BMWs at
a leisurely pace.
I will keep the list for next year's Texas Blueberry Blast. The 1999
list is sure to be a good place to build upon.
Robert Munday... Montgomery, Alabama
`89 K100LTA `74 R90/6
K-Whiner #47 Village Idiot Rolling Broccoli Rider
BOOF#131 BAGman#19 Airhead #3783
... at Rhinebeck, catch the Branson Bunny on FRS Channel 6
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