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BMW: July 4 ride (2) Re: BMW: Re: BMW- Celebrating BMW: Re: Another Viagra Joke Re: BMW: RE: valve adj tool for K100 Re: BMW: helmets and vibrations Re: BMW: repair manual k75s BMW: R1100S Tall bars & shield BMW: Sys 4 mesh thingie Re: BMW: repair manual k75s BMW: RE: Re: Another Viagra Joke BMW: RE: canadian imports - NON-BMW Re: BMW: repair manual k75s BMW: IBMWR Member? BMW: System 4 Helmet Question Re: BMW: IBMWR Member? Re: BMW: IBMWR Member? BMW: good source for tiny little Torx drivers Re: BMW: IBMWR Member? Re: BMW: K75 backfire and fuel pump noise.
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:24:01 +0700 From: Graham K Rogers <gkrogers@mozart.inet.co.th> Subject: BMW: July 4 ride (2) I have scanned some photos from the ride last Sunday. You will find the link at: www.inet.co.th/cyberclub/gkrogers/index2.html Scott Conary? I have put the link to your page there too. Any other takers? - -- Graham BMW K100RS www.inet.co.th/cyberclub/gkrogers/ ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:13:45 +0700 From: Graham K Rogers <gkrogers@mozart.inet.co.th> Subject: Re: BMW: Re: BMW- Celebrating > > Well, not really (above) but it will do. Who would want to celebrate a > > rebellion anyway? >> > >Uh, Graham, have you been out in the steaming East so long that you've >forgotten Guy Fawkes Day? Or is that just a celebration of a Big Bang that >didn't? You are quite right, I had forgotten. But you have to remember us Brits often celebrate failures (Dunkerque, Boadicea, Ethelred the Unready, Hastings Harold). We also celebrate years of motorcycles that leaked, broke, let us down, and shook like no K ever can. Maybe that is why I am over here and riding BMW. <g> - -- Graham BMW K100RS www.inet.co.th/cyberclub/gkrogers/ ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 06:59:09 -0400 From: "Art Hechler" <hechleraw@prodigy.net> Subject: BMW: Re: Another Viagra Joke > Subject: BMW: ANOTHER Viagra joke... > > This man went to the local pharmacist and ordered triple dose of Viagra. The > pharmacist asked him why a triple dose, and the man told him he had a date > and didnt want to disappoint the woman. So he obliges the mans request and > gives him triple dose of viagra. > > The next day this same man comes in and he has his arm wrapped up in a > splint.. The pharmacist asked him how his date went... The man replied > "she didnt show up" > Ah, the truth is now coming out, Cole was at the hospital late Friday night after his date (ha, ha) didn't show up, getting his arm in the splint - thus the absence at the arranged meeting place for the ride to Gummikuh on Sat morning - the real reason now surfaces. Art Hechler (distrustful of lawyers wearing leathers) ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 07:45:20 -0400 From: Chris Norloff <cnorloff@norloff.com> Subject: Re: BMW: RE: valve adj tool for K100 >- -----Original Message----- >> From: RODNEY STEWART <k100rt85@hotmail.com> > >Does anyone know of a good substitute for BMW's valve spring depressor >lever > >for the older K's? I'd like to be able to adjust the valves on my '85 > >K100RT.... At 02:06 AM 7/7/99 , Skrabak, Stephen T, JR, NNO wrote: > I use a VW valve adj tool you can buy in Pep boys. I bought it years ago >for a 1977 VW. >I did have to grind it slightly to fit but it works like a charm. What kind of VW? My VW's ('63, '67, '68 air-cooled) all used screw-thread adjusters - but I guess that design stopped in 1975. What kind of VW used shim-adjust valves? (Or did they all use the same ones then?) thanks, Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 05:09:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Ross Schacher <dwarvenbiker@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: BMW: helmets and vibrations I had my bags loose in their mounts, and had tried putting tubing on the bars to tighten them up, as I suspected that the loose bags were causing a "wallowing" in the corners. Another Prez had posted how he had tightened the stock bags up by gluing a strip of rubber from an old inner tube on the bag where it contacted the bars; I just followed his suggestion, which helped, and also, I straightened the mounts, as they were "toeing" in at the bottom. Seems to have helped. Ross - --- Clifford Scridlow <scridlow@yahoo.com> wrote: > I did not even think of that. But the right one has been loose from > getting knocked over by a car. The guy who helped me with the bearings > did not have them on when he drove it. I will remove them and see what > happens. Thanks - cliff. > > > --- Ross Schacher <dwarvenbiker@yahoo.com> wrote: > > This may seem silly, but have you checked your > > saddlebags to see if they're > > tight in their mounts? > > > > --- Clifford Scridlow <scridlow@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Also on my "91 k100rs I am having a rather nasty > > vibration problem. The > > > bike has 17k miles. 7k on Michelin Macadams. The > > bike has begun > > > vibrating at speeds from 40-60mph with the worst > > at 50-55mph. This has > > > been going on for about 650 miles. I have > > tightened the head bearings > > > and ordered a new steering damper (the old one > > seems to do nothing). > > > > === > > Ross Schacher | __ BMW __ > > o Past Master | \R65/ > > /^\ 1992-3, 1996-7 | __|||__ > > \/ G \/ Franklin Lodge | (__| |__) > > / \./ \ AF & AM | |_| > > ^ Grafton, MA Canth > > Place your clothes and weapons where you can find > > them in the dark > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > > mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > === Ross Schacher | __ BMW __ o Past Master | \R65/ /^\ 1992-3, 1996-7 | __|||__ \/ G \/ Franklin Lodge | (__| |__) / \./ \ AF & AM | |_| ^ Grafton, MA Canth Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 08:15:49 EDT From: Osman Y <redkrider@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: BMW: repair manual k75s >I have found that you require a phd to understand some of >the manuals I have used in the past. >I plan to tinker on a 1988 k75s it will be my first time playing >with a BMW >Could someone please recommend an idiot proof repair manual >Thank you >Tim Tim, I posted this same question not too long ago and the powers (prezes) that be, recommended both manuals(haynes and Clymer)if not all three if you want to spend some $$ on the factory manual as well. They noted that both the Haynes and Clymer have errors and ommissions so depending on the level of self service you will perform, you need both. Osman, CT K75S _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit www.msn.com ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 08:41:27 -0400 From: "Barry P. Blank, Ph.D." <PsychB@Concentric.Net> Subject: BMW: R1100S Tall bars & shield Greg, you wrote: <snip> > Maybe with the higher bars, I might reconsider a tank bag, but > I am waiting to see the Bagster version. It seems to only be available in > Germany right now, I can't figure out how to price one or get one!! If > anyone has any insights, I'd appreciate it. The Bagster importer/distributor is BMWNY in Huntington, NY. Call them at (516) 427-4045 to see if they can help you out. - -- Regards, Barry ('98 R1100RS) Roslyn Heights, New York Ride hard and ride well. ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 08:52:51 -0400 From: Allen Clarkson <allen.clarkson@popmail.med.nyu.edu> Subject: BMW: Sys 4 mesh thingie In a message dated Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:08:20 -0400, James Colburn wrote: > The System 4 comes with a mesh "thing" underneath the chin guard that is > supposed to cut down on wind noise (I guess) but it digs into my thick > neck. Does anyone know how to get this thing off without cutting? My System 4 also annoyed me by pressing into my neck - which isn't particularly thick. My reaction was to loosen the strap - which didn't help. Loosened more - more worse. Next discovery: mesh thingie was causing the loose strap to bunch up between thingie and neck. Carefully adjusting the strap so it's flat when between thingie and neck solved most of the problem. I don't like wind noise and if the thingie helps to prevent it I want to keep the thingie. Let us know if you remove thingie and if wind noise increases. Allen ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:04:54 -0400 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@monmouth.com> Subject: Re: BMW: repair manual k75s M.A. offers Tim some good advice (M.A. - what's yer name??) >> From: "M.A. Martin" <mam@unixg.ubc.ca> >Subject: Re: BMW: repair manual k75s > >> I have found that you require a phd to understand some of >> the manuals I have used in the past. >> I plan to tinker on a 1988 k75s it will be my first time playing >> with a BMW >> Could someone please recommend an idiot proof repair manual >> Thank you >> Tim > >I've seen the Clymer, Hanes and factory manuals. Actually - I own all three.. >Of all three, I'd recommend the Clymer first since: Agreed.. >1) The factory manual costs $$$ Last time I looked - about $100.. >2) Clearer pictures, larger type. And much more info than the factory manual. Detailed instructions on a lot of stuff the factory manual is absolutely mum about.. >3) I've noticed at least one section (depressurizing fuel lines) where the >Clymer offers > more alterative techniques. Yup.. but also true of Haynes.. >4) More information on later model bikes (the Hanes has a smaller section, >and the > factory manual doesn't address this as far as I know) . This >however doesn't > apply to a 1988 bike. ALso true - Clymer or Haynes (Hanes makes underwear :-) both cover the '88 years just fine. >All three manuals do offer some complementary information; but the Clymer >is a good start. > >Very important: the IBMWR tech pages: > >www.ibmwr.org/ktech.html Absolutely!! >Note: there is an error in the Clymer manual; I think they recommend 32 Nm >torque for the oil drain plug. The correct torque is somewhere between >18-20 Nm. Actually - there are quite a few - in both aftermarket manuals. I don't have a list of all of them - but I have marked up my manuals when I spot the errors. I think Clymer has one layout diagram of the K electrical box completely mislabeled.. And I always use the factory manual as the 'last-word' in torque settings.. did you know there is a different tightening sequence for early K frame to engine bolts than later ones?? I don't believe you'll find that info in Clymer. In general - both aftermarket manuals are good, but both do contain some errors. Most errors are 'non-critical' - ie, won't cause a failure, but a few such as torque settings MAY cause you to strip bolts out of fittings.. so use common sense along with the torque settings shown. If they show 70ft/lbs for a 10mm bolt - they're WRONG. Go with the recommended 'standard' settings for the 10mm bolt and you'll be fine. No manual will ever replace observant eyes and a brain that's engaged.. Best, ...................................... Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ deilenberger@monmouth.com NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger ...................................... ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:14:35 -0400 From: Chip Robie <chrobi@wnt.sas.com> Subject: BMW: RE: Re: Another Viagra Joke Art Heckles: > Ah, the truth is now coming out, Cole was at the hospital > late Friday night after his date (ha, ha) didn't show up, > getting his arm in the splint - thus the absence at the > arranged meeting place for the ride to Gummikuh on Sat > morning - the real reason now surfaces. Told you guys. Once you've seen Cole getting his "date" drunk, it all-l-l-l makes sense. And if you think about it, don't armwrestle Cole. Ever. Chip Robie Friend to EsqCole ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 08:22:13 -0500 From: "Woodson, Bill" <bwoodson@dor.state.wi.us> Subject: BMW: RE: canadian imports - NON-BMW Cliff writes - >importing from canada is easy. u must find a licensed importer (there >are about a hundred in the country and they generally live in border >areas). they handle all paperwork and the process takes well under 30 >days. i can't think of the guys name that we have used but he lives in >constable ny and is listed as such in the phone book. (i am traveling >or i would look it up). Fees are US$400 to the importer and 4% to US >Customs. Vehicles sold in Canada are generally US compliant if they >are of recent vintage and there is no requirement to change the >speedometer. if anyone really wants to do this please reply off list >and i will get you a name and telephone number. regards. -cliff Hmmm, well - does anyone know if the Honda Varadero is sold in Canada? Thanks. Bill Woodson Madison, Wisconsin '93 R100GS/PD '96 XR600R '98 VTR1000 _ ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:22:25 -0400 From: "Philip E. Rose" <prose@draper.com> Subject: Re: BMW: repair manual k75s Don, The problem with any Factory workshop manual is that they ASSUME that you are a BMW factory trained mechanic. Case in point, directions for replacing the clutch in a boxer. Step 1. Remove transmission Now in the Clymer or Haynes, they tell you HOW to remove the transmission. I agree that all three are the best! Plus a parts book! Cheers, Phil Rose At 09:04 AM 7/7/99 -0400, Don Eilenberger wrote: > >M.A. offers Tim some good advice (M.A. - what's yer name??) > >>> From: "M.A. Martin" <mam@unixg.ubc.ca> >>Subject: Re: BMW: repair manual k75s >> >>> I have found that you require a phd to understand some of >>> the manuals I have used in the past. >>> I plan to tinker on a 1988 k75s it will be my first time playing >>> with a BMW >>> Could someone please recommend an idiot proof repair manual >>> Thank you >>> Tim >> >>I've seen the Clymer, Hanes and factory manuals. > >Actually - I own all three.. > >>Of all three, I'd recommend the Clymer first since: > >Agreed.. > >>1) The factory manual costs $$$ > >Last time I looked - about $100.. > >>2) Clearer pictures, larger type. > >And much more info than the factory manual. Detailed instructions >on a lot of stuff the factory manual is absolutely mum about.. > >>3) I've noticed at least one section (depressurizing fuel lines) where the >>Clymer offers >> more alterative techniques. > >Yup.. but also true of Haynes.. > >>4) More information on later model bikes (the Hanes has a smaller section, >>and the >> factory manual doesn't address this as far as I know) . This >>however doesn't >> apply to a 1988 bike. > >ALso true - Clymer or Haynes (Hanes makes underwear :-) both cover the >'88 years just fine. > >>All three manuals do offer some complementary information; but the Clymer >>is a good start. >> >>Very important: the IBMWR tech pages: >> >>www.ibmwr.org/ktech.html > >Absolutely!! > > >>Note: there is an error in the Clymer manual; I think they recommend 32 Nm >>torque for the oil drain plug. The correct torque is somewhere between >>18-20 Nm. > >Actually - there are quite a few - in both aftermarket manuals. I >don't have a list of all of them - but I have marked up my manuals >when I spot the errors. I think Clymer has one layout diagram of >the K electrical box completely mislabeled.. > >And I always use the factory manual as the 'last-word' in torque settings.. >did you know there is a different tightening sequence for early K frame >to engine bolts than later ones?? I don't believe you'll find that info >in Clymer. > >In general - both aftermarket manuals are good, but both do contain >some errors. Most errors are 'non-critical' - ie, won't cause a failure, >but a few such as torque settings MAY cause you to strip bolts out of >fittings.. so use common sense along with the torque settings shown. If >they show 70ft/lbs for a 10mm bolt - they're WRONG. Go with the recommended >'standard' settings for the 10mm bolt and you'll be fine. > >No manual will ever replace observant eyes and a brain that's engaged.. > >Best, > > >...................................... >Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ > deilenberger@monmouth.com > NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: >http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger >...................................... > ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:55:13 -0400 From: "Michael Turner" <turner@avi-panoramic.com> Subject: BMW: IBMWR Member? Is there a membership/registration for the IBMWR? I keep seeing people's signatures containing "IBMWR Member" and IBMWR meetings. Is there a membership? Thanks, MT ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:54:19 -0400 From: James Colburn <james.colburn@pressroom.com> Subject: BMW: System 4 Helmet Question >Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:56:22 +0900 >> From: Satoru Manita <satoru@manita.com> >I remember that the chin flap is secured with 2 Torx screws at the both >end (nearby the locking latches) and Velcro at the center (nearby the >release lever). Thus the flap can be removed without cutting. You may >have to remove the styrofoam pad from the chin guard to gain access to >the screws and Velcro, though. Anyone know a good source for tiny little Torx drivers? Jim Colburn (aka james.colburn@pressroom.com) "I installed a skylight in my apartment. The people who live above me are furious." ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 99 10:05:09 EDT From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@fsm-1.pica.army.mil> Subject: Re: BMW: IBMWR Member? > >Is there a membership/registration for the IBMWR? > >I keep seeing people's signatures containing "IBMWR Member" and IBMWR >meetings. > >Is there a membership? Yes. And you are a member <www.ibmwr.org/faq-files> reads: "How did it start? The IBMWR mailing list was started in 1993 by Joe Senner, who is still the list owner and administrator. The club started soon after. All subscribers to the mailing list are, by default, IBMWR Presidents. At the beginning of 1998, there were about 1400 Presidents, scattered all around the world." tom "bookawitz" coradeschi <+> tcora@skylands.ibmwr.org Skylands (NJ) BMW Riders <+> <skylands.ibmwr.org/sbr/> ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 08:05:25 -0700 From: "Bruce G. Keahey" <bkeahey@uswest.com> Subject: Re: BMW: IBMWR Member? Michael Turner wrote: > > Is there a membership/registration for the IBMWR? > > I keep seeing people's signatures containing "IBMWR Member" and IBMWR > meetings. > > Is there a membership? > > Thanks, > > MT Why on earth would you want to be just a "member", when you can be President? Ain't you got no ambition? We don't need no stinkin' members. Now if you really want to be President, just send your $5.00 monthly dues to me. ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:08:59 -0400 From: Chip Robie <chrobi@wnt.sas.com> Subject: BMW: good source for tiny little Torx drivers > Anyone know a good source for tiny little Torx drivers? > Jim Colburn Tiny little parts stores. Chip Robie That Was Easy, NC. ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:05:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Art Campbell <artc@artc.net> Subject: Re: BMW: IBMWR Member? Subscribing to the list is "registration." Cheers, Art Art Campbell artc@artc.net "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Michael Turner wrote: > > Is there a membership/registration for the IBMWR? > > I keep seeing people's signatures containing "IBMWR Member" and IBMWR > meetings. > > Is there a membership? > > Thanks, > > MT > ------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 08:51:53 -0500 From: "Daniel J. Pagel" <DJPagel@beloit.com> Subject: Re: BMW: K75 backfire and fuel pump noise. Thanks from--------->Dan Pagel >>> Thanh Truong <ttruong_1998@yahoo.com> 07/03 7:13 PM >>> 1. My bike backfire quiet often every time I roll off the throttle. Is this normal? If not How I can fix it? I was informed by my old dealer that the only way to stop this is to close the throttle all the way. When the engine is above 2000 RPM, and you close the throttle, it shuts the fuel off and you don't get a backfire. 2. I hear the very load shessss noise/sound inside the gas tank. I think it might be a fuel pump somewhere inside the tank. Is this right/normal? What can I do about it? it's annoying. It is the fuel pump. It's normal. Wear earplugs. ! ------------------------------ End of BMW-Digest V1999 #1209 *****************************
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