Re: [BMWMc] Strange Characters Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going [BMWMc] Re: Passports and canada Re: [BMWMc] Strange Characters Re: [BMWMc] Strange Characters Re: [BMWMc] Passports and Canada Re: [BMWMc] Passports and Canada Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going Re: [BMWMc] Re: Passports and canada Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going Re: [BMWMc] Strange Characters
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:57:29 -0600
From: "Harry Wilshusen" <harry.wilshusen@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Strange Characters
On Dec 27, 2007 10:05 PM, Paul or Voni Glaves <p_vglaves@mindspring.com> wrote:
snip
>
> Mark the dates April 25-27, 2008.
snip
Why so late this year?
Harry Wilshusen
--
77 R 100 RS my "Kick The Can"
06 R1200 RT
I do what the voices in my wife's head tell me to.
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Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:04:22 -0500
From: "BMW F650GS Mobile" <F650@warwick.net>
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going
----- Original Message -----
> From: "David E.B. Smith" <davidebsmith@davidebsmith.org>
> To: "BMW F650GS Mobile" <F650@warwick.net>
>If you disagree, take it
> up with Verizon's engineers, they get paid to know a lot more about cell
> phones than I do.
>
(grin tounge in cheeck)
I do and frankly MOST verizon 'engineers' I run into don't know
sh*t from shinola with regard to their systems....
;^ )
Nick
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Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:02:27 -0600
From: "John Simmons" <jsimmons@wildblue.net>
Subject: [BMWMc] Re: Passports and canada
> I believe the cop asks for that after you crash. I've been told your
> bike can be impounded if you don't have it.
>
> Frank Glamser
Mismo para Mexico.
Juanito
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:16:20 -0600
From: "Rob Lessen" <rob.lessen@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Strange Characters
On Dec 28, 2007 9:57 PM, Harry Wilshusen <harry.wilshusen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Mark the dates April 25-27, 2008.
> snip
>
> Why so late this year?
Could it be that the recent monsoons caused this? Could it be the
IBMWR gang scared the a:) Baptists, b:) High School performers,
c:) Blue Hairs, or d:) all of the above?
Butt, I would imagine it's because it's my birthday weekend and the
host's want to shower gift cards on me.
Best of the new year to you and yours.
>
> Harry Wilshusen
--
Rob Lessen
Arma, KS
'73 Honda XL250, still thinking of a road trip
'91 R100GSPD, needs to make use of itself or it's outahere
'07 R1200RT, still getting used to Bette
'07 K1200GT, needing an extended warranty if it stays
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:27:27 -0600
From: Paul or Voni Glaves <p_vglaves@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Strange Characters
Rob Lessen wrote:
> Butt, I would imagine it's because it's my birthday weekend and the
> host's want to shower gift cards on me.
You've got it!
Voni
sMiling
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Live deeply,
laugh fully,
love widely
http://www.bigbend.net/users/glaves/
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:56:15 +0000
From: twade5@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Passports and Canada
Sounds like some local Customs managers have started asking for passports, probably as part of a marketing program to increase knowledge of the upcoming (whenever) requirement.
Tom Wade
Hope, Indiana
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:41:09 -0500
From: "Brian Curry" <bmwbrian@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Passports and Canada
On 12/29/07, twade5@comcast.net <twade5@comcast.net> wrote:
> Sounds like some local Customs managers have started asking for passports, probably as part of a marketing program to increase knowledge of the upcoming (whenever) requirement.
>
> Tom Wade
> Hope, Indiana
You mean like this?
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/11/14/border.firetruck/index.html
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Ambassador BMW MOA |
Brian Curry | A society that gets rid of all its
"DEERsSLAYER" | troublemakers goes downhill.
K75RTs both coasts | --Robert Heinlein
Chester Springs PA |
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:45:27 -0500
From: Dave Johnson <djohnson6146@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going
Brain Curry wrote:
Yes it does. Analog is at power ALL the time. The digital is on in a
"pulse" fashion sending out bits and turning off as much as it can.
Analog to digital conversion takes place and then it compresses the
DATA just like in a zip file, and booms it off.
It is off more than it is on. Plus there are more power levels I
believe in the digital phones than the analogs. It keeps transmit
power as low as it can and is changing that strength like crazy.
Its magic.
Dave writes:
Yup, I learned this the hard way at RA Biltmore last year. Left home
with a full charge on my verizon phone, after 2 hours on the Biltmore
Estate, dead as a doornail. Puzzled, I was told that in a weak or no
signal field, the phone will squander its charge in a fruitless effort
to maintain comm by upping its variable power transmit (receive?)
capability.
Now, when traveling, I turn the phone off to maintain my ability to
transmit out, while somewhat limiting others ability to reach me at the
moment.
--
Dave Johnson
Boone NC
The Kilometer High City
1100RT
V65
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:40:22 -0600
From: Frank Glamser <fglamser@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going
I think that is one of the objectives of touring. :-)
Frank Glamser
Hattiesburg, Mississippi
2004 R1150RT
IBMWR Tag
Dave Johnson wrote:
>
>
> Now, when traveling, I turn the phone off to maintain my ability to
> transmit out, while somewhat limiting others ability to reach me at
> the moment.
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:49:28 -0500
From: "Brian Curry" <bmwbrian@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going
On 12/29/07, Dave Johnson <djohnson6146@charter.net> wrote:
> Dave writes:
> Yup, I learned this the hard way at RA Biltmore last year. Left home
> with a full charge on my verizon phone, after 2 hours on the Biltmore
> Estate, dead as a doornail. Puzzled, I was told that in a weak or no
> signal field, the phone will squander its charge in a fruitless effort
> to maintain comm by upping its variable power transmit (receive?)
> capability.
Others have found the same thing if they put their phone in a desk
drawer at work, turned on. Metal desks and desk drawers make darn
good Faraday cages.
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Ambassador BMW MOA |
Brian Curry | A society that gets rid of all its
"DEERsSLAYER" | troublemakers goes downhill.
K75RTs both coasts | --Robert Heinlein
Chester Springs PA |
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:05:04 -0600
From: "David E.B. Smith" <davidebsmith@davidebsmith.org>
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going
On 12/29/2007 10:45 AM, Dave Johnson wrote:
>
> Brain Curry wrote:
> Yes it does. Analog is at power ALL the time. The digital is on in a
> "pulse" fashion sending out bits and turning off as much as it can.
> Analog to digital conversion takes place and then it compresses the
> DATA just like in a zip file, and booms it off.
>
> It is off more than it is on. Plus there are more power levels I
> believe in the digital phones than the analogs. It keeps transmit
> power as low as it can and is changing that strength like crazy.
>
> Its magic.
>
> Dave writes:
> Yup, I learned this the hard way at RA Biltmore last year. Left home
> with a full charge on my verizon phone, after 2 hours on the Biltmore
> Estate, dead as a doornail. Puzzled, I was told that in a weak or no
> signal field, the phone will squander its charge in a fruitless effort
> to maintain comm by upping its variable power transmit (receive?)
> capability.
>
> Now, when traveling, I turn the phone off to maintain my ability to
> transmit out, while somewhat limiting others ability to reach me at
> the moment.
The best three pieces I've ever read about how CDMA phones work - I
almost comprehend what's happening after reading them - are
Does my CDMA phone drain the battery faster when it says it is "searching"?
http://denbeste.nu/cdmafaq/search.shtml
Does my CDMA phone drain the battery faster if I'm operating in a fringe
area?
http://denbeste.nu/cdmafaq/fringe.shtml
What is the phone doing when it's idle?
http://denbeste.nu/cdmafaq/idle.shtml
and more here: http://denbeste.nu/cdmafaq/index.shtml
http://www.mobileworld.org/gsm_about.html
As far as understanding GSM goes, lets just say, CDMA was invented by an
entrepreneurial company, and GSM was invented by a committee of European
government agencies, and leave it at that.
http://www.davidebsmith.org
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Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:18:43 +0000
From: twade5@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going
The trouble with taking it up with Verizon is that from then on, you'll have those 75 or so network engineers following you around everywhere you go....
Tom Wade
Hope, Indiana
>
> Without getting too deep into the technological debate, I started this
> by saying that Verizon shows their analog (800 mhz AMPS) signals not
> travelling as far as their digital (1900 mhz CDMA) signals at a specific
> location that's on the far side of a hill from the tower (the tower
> being not on top of the hill, but on the far side of the hill, meaning
> the hill is between the tower and my location). If you disagree, take it
> up with Verizon's engineers, they get paid to know a lot more about cell
> phones than I do.
>
> --
> David E.B. Smith * Chicago IL 393 455 * BMWMOA BMWRA IBA AMA
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Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:23:49 +0000
From: twade5@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Re: Passports and canada
The problem with Mexico is that they don't impound your vehicle, they impound YOU. But it's okay, you'll get out in a year or two. And of course, the cop will just steal your vehicle.
Anyone remember a college professor from Tucson who was murdered in Mexico. The US police finally solved the case when they discovered the Mexican police chief who murdered him driving his pickup truck.
Personally, I reccommend that no one go to Mexico unless there is a good compelling business reason to do so.
Tom Wade
Hope, Indiana
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> From: "John Simmons" <jsimmons@wildblue.net>
> Admin, sub/unsub info: http://www.lists.ibmwr.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwmc
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:40:47 -0800
From: John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com>
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Analog Cell Towers Going
David E.B. Smith wrote:
> I believe the difference is that analog (AMPS) uses the 800 mhz band
> and digital (PCS) uses the 1900 mhz band, and there's a difference in
> signal propagation between the frequencies. The internets contain more
> debates than you could shake a stick at about signal propagation in
> big cities among buildings, in the country through trees, etc. And
> yes, there's some 800 and 850 mhz digital service, which shouldn't
> have a significant difference in propagation from 800 mhz analog.
actually, theres quite a lot of 800/850Mhz digital Cellular, it has 2-4
times the range of the microwave PCS frequencies (1.9Ghz), and is used
extensively in rural areas by carriers that support it, both CDMA and
some GSM providers. The pure PCS networks are entirely 1.9Ghz and don't
work very well out of urbanized areas as they require several towers per
mile
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:58:40 -0600
From: "Robert Atkinson" <440props@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [BMWMc] Strange Characters
On 12/28/07, Rob Lessen <rob.lessen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 28, 2007 10:19 AM, Paul or Voni Glaves <p_vglaves@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > We'll have NEW Birthday cakes ; )
> >
> > Jim Post wrote:
> > > WOW !!
> > >
> > > Does this mean that we will miss all the Birthday Cakes??
> > >
> > > Jim Post / Bones
>
> CAKES? Did I hear, CAKES? errrr, my birthday is the 29th of April.
> Back in 1979 it was, a sunny spring day in Kansas. The type of day
> that brings the masses to the heartland, not too hot nor too cold.
> Since that beautiful day, many lives have been brightened with that
> delivery. The Speedo company really appreciates my partnership with
> them since so many have bought their products due to my modeling
> skills.
>
> Y'll just bring cards for me, the XL250 won't hold many gifts. Many
> thanks for your birthday wishes.
>
>
> --
> Rob Lessen
> Arma, delusional, KS
>
> '73 Honda XL250, does Jessie make panniers?
let 'em eat Kringle!
;-))
--
Robert Atkinson - Racine, WI. USA.
1988 K75S & 1993 K75RT
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