bmw-tech-digest            Tuesday, 2 April 1996       Volume 01 : Number 008
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SOS Priority Lights Re: SOS Priority Lights Re: SOS Priority Lights BMW: Tech: Testing Steering dampers K&N Air Filters..... Re: BMW: K&N Air Filters..... Clogged pipes Re: Clogged pipes Re: Clogged pipes R90/6 Vibrations German Accent Pilot Bearing, R90/6 Re: Pilot Bearing, R90/6 Aeroflow vs. Parabellum Clutch Spline Consumables Re: Clutch Spline Consumables It's April First you accent complainers! Mikuni square side carbs Re: Mikuni square side carbs More carb stuff Re: Clutch Spline Consumables
From: jmft@IX.NETCOM.COM (Jean M Feuillet) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:16:47 -0800 Subject: SOS Priority Lights Hello, I now own a new 1996 K11RS Special Edition and I'd like to receive info on several products I've seen advertised in the BMW ON. To improve my safety, I want to install the SOS Priority Lights for the front headlight, the Run'n'Lites for the flashers and the Hyperlites for the rear brake light. Will these products work on this bike together without affecting the computer system or draw too much current? Is there any product that I should avoid? Is it easy to install for a novice mechanic? I would greatly appreciate any comments and suggestions on these various products. Jay Feuillet. ------------------------------ From: Brian Curry <bmwbrian@voicenet.com> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 07:15:10 -0500 Subject: Re: SOS Priority Lights At 05:16 PM 3/28/96 -0800, Jean M Feuillet wrote: >To improve my safety, I want to install the SOS Priority Lights for the >front headlight, the Run'n'Lites for the flashers and the Hyperlites >for the rear brake light. > >Will these products work on this bike together without affecting the >computer system or draw too much current? Is there any product that I >should avoid? Is it easy to install for a novice mechanic? I don't have the SOS so I cannot address it at all. I have the Run'n'Lites on both bikes. They are easy to install and do not affect the bulb monitoring system, as near as I can tell. I have the Hyperlites on both bikes. Again. Easy to install. Take your time and don't rush. The guy selling them was installing them at Daytona. I took about as long from the instructions as he did from experience. The Hyperlites pull virtually no current. They do not disturb the bulb monitoring system as far as I can tell. I have had no lights burn out, so I don't know if they mask that indications. The current draw is so low, that I don't worry about it with the ~400 watt alternator. With the ~700 watt in yours, it definitely is not a problem. You are probably only increasing the constant draw by maybe 20 watts with the Run'n'Lites. The HyperLites only pull current when braking, so that is a no virtually a never mind and even more so, since the current draw is so low. Both of them are very simple. If you can find someone that is happy dealing with electricity, they can do some hand holding for you. :) Good luck and ride with "intensity." Brian Curry, 1990 Blue K75RTs both coasts, Chester Springs, PA, USA K-Whiner #21, BOOF #38, OSP #7, "VI,CE" BMWMOA#4578, BMWRA#12296, AMA#725653, USCA#078, PE-029523-E, N3IYL IDN-A force for good in the world. All of the good, none of the bad. ------------------------------ From: jeb@honet5.att.com Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:50:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: SOS Priority Lights Brian Curry responded to a post I did not (yet?) see: >At 05:16 PM 3/28/96 -0800, Jean M Feuillet wrote: > >>To improve my safety, I want to install the SOS Priority Lights for the >>front headlight, the Run'n'Lites for the flashers and the Hyperlites >>for the rear brake light. I have SOS Priority Lights on the first two bikes listed in my .sig. Had them on the bike before that (but it was Japanese so I won't mention it :-) ). I don't know how much they draw. I don't quite understand your question though. You mention SOS PL's for the "front headlight". Don't know about that. I have them on the rear. They turn the signals into running lights and when you engage the brake, they get brighter (as well as making everything else work as you'd expect). I think they are *great* for conspicuity. I also have put RnL's on the front signals. One note: the PL's are illegal in my state, and probably a lot other. I've NEVER had a problem, even when I temporarily had PL's +, which blink incessently (don't get THEM). The reason they're illegal has to do with the color of the signals - no color other than red is allowed. I don't care and I've never heard of anyone having a problem. They don't even mention it at inspection, where they've failed me for the grill on my headlight on the PD - which of course is totally LEGAL (sold that way). With the PL's I wouldn't bother with the Hyperlites. Oh, just in case, I've wired them with spade connectors (so I could get through inspection if necessary). The job is pretty easy. You have to find a place for the small "box". It fits easily in my tail section. On my first bike I had in next to a sidecover - it's fairly small. You will have to tap into existing wire to connect it. I've used crimp on taps. I had a small problem on the GS with one coming loose. I just replaced it, but finding the problem wasn't a quick task. It was intermittent of course, and took a while to find. As far as more conspicuity is concerned - I wear a Conspicuity vest and a Halo helmet band. My Aerostich also has Scothlight (or whatever it's called) and I've put reflective patches on the hard bags. Can you say GLOW? Good luck. Now I gotta save this post, as this is probably the tenth time I've typed all this in! - -- Jim Bessette | Experiencing | First BMW 1989 K100RS/ABS jeb@honet5.att.com | BMW evolution | Second BMW 1993 R100GS/PD Freehold NJ, USA | in reverse | Latest BMW 1968 R50/2 ------------------------------ From: steveb@falcon.kla.com (Steven Buchholz) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:08:54 -0800 Subject: BMW: Tech: Testing Steering dampers I have a 1992 k1 with about 38K miles. I've been noticing that over the past couple of days that the steering seems to be a little twitchy in slow speed operation, and I found that when I take my hands of the bars at moderate speed (~30 MPH) that I'm getting a little front-end wobble. The tires are at about half used, with the normal left of center wear pat- tern. Since I'm noticing things at speeds near 0 I'm thinking that the tires are OK, but I'm wondering if the steering damper needs to be repla- ced, or if there were any other thoughts as to what the problem might be. What is the typical life for the steering damper and are there any tests that I can do to determine if mine has a problem? ... side question ... I had the case on my battery crack a few weeks back (those cold California winters you know ;) ... I caught it fairly quickly, and the only "damage" that was done was that the black finish on the thin metal shield that is below the left footpeg to shield from the exhaust system. I found that a replacement part is ~$70, so I'm going to refinish it. Does anyone know if it is simply painted black or if it is anodized? Any suggestions on refinishing it? TIA! Steve Buchholz s_buchho@kla.com San Jose, CA (USA) '92 k1 (K1DRBAR) ------------------------------ From: mick@westworld.com (Mick McKinnon) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:29:13 -0800 Subject: K&N Air Filters..... I've been shopping for a K&N Air Filter for my new RT, I know.... they ruin engines per some reports.....If you want to find one at a good price $29.14 + shipping...Call Jeff at Donnelson Cycles in MO. 800.325.4144 I spoke to K&N first since they are pretty local (100 mi or so away in Riverside) and Mike told me that his suggested retail price is $31.42 Comp Acc in OH wanted $36.95 PLUS $7.80 to pack it and ship it. The R1100 filter Part# is BM-0400 but they don't have one listed for the '96 RT yet. Since the air filter element hasn't changed from the RS's to the RT's I think it's safe to assume it will fit your new RT. Mick, Simi Valley, CA, USA, North America, Earth, Solar System, MilkyWay,Universe ___________________________________________________________________ '93 K1100LT..Quick Trips! 3-Flags #76 K11LT_Mick@Vnet.IBM.Com '96 R1100RT.....Twisties! MOA#57053 RA#28302 mick@Westworld.Com '83 R100RT 60th Aniv. Edition..Has been adopted by a very nice family in Berkley ___________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: Erik Schlein <eschlein@u.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:26:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: BMW: K&N Air Filters..... Hi volks, I've been thinking of replacing the airfilter on my 85 K100RT with a K&N. I hadn't heard that they can damage engines. Anybody know anything about this? I've got a Stayintune on the way and thought I'd mildly enhance breathing at the intake end o' things while I'm at it. TIA-- Erik Schlein 85 K100RT/72 Commando/70 Triumph T100C ------------------------------ From: JOEDILL@frmail.rosemount.com Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:00:50 -0600 Subject: Clogged pipes I believe the pipes on my dad's Suzuki GT380 (2-stroke) are clogged. The peak horepower is down to about 5 and each exhaust pipe weighs about 35 lbs. Does anyone have a non-destructive way of getting the carbon out of the pipes? Pardon the bandwith, but I didn't know who else to ask. My dad did have a BMW R80RT Until a Ford F150 made a left in front of him. Ride Safe Joe Dille (joedill@frmail.rosemount.com) ------------------------------ From: "Richard Bernecker" <bernie@cais.cais.com> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:54:15 -5 Subject: Re: Clogged pipes > > I believe the pipes on my dad's Suzuki GT380 (2-stroke) are > clogged. The peak horepower is down to about 5 and each exhaust > pipe weighs about 35 lbs. Does anyone have a non-destructive > way of getting the carbon out of the pipes? > > Pardon the bandwith, but I didn't know who else to ask. My dad > did have a BMW R80RT Until a Ford F150 made a left in front of > him. > > Ride Safe > > Joe Dille > (joedill@frmail.rosemount.com) > If you don't get the answer you want here, try the 2-stroke list. 2-stokes@dorje.com. BTW, the pipes ALWAYS weighed 35 pounds on those bikes... (FWIW, I've got about 8 GT750 Suzuki's.. Liquid cooled 2-stroke 750cc triples.. What a machine...) If the mufflers are truely coked over to the point where they are clogger, the traditional method is to have the carbon burnt out - 1500 degree ovens and all.. The GT380 is a 3 cylinder, and should split the center cylinder pipe into two smaller pipes (unless they've been replaced by expansion chambers...) You should have 4 total exhaust pipes, chromed and heavy as hell... And chances are, the clogging is at the BACK end and not the front... The baffling (muffler) generally gets clogged first, so that's where you should start looking. The baffles come out (should be a small screw at the bottom of the back of each muffler) - unscrew the baffle retainer and pull the baffle out. Look at the baffle - the fiberglass packing material is probably all oiled and nasty - pull it off and re-install the baffles.. Now, restart the bike. Things should have changed dramatically - it should run OK now, but louder.. DO NOT RUN THE BIKE LIKE THIS FOR LONG - you can overheat and seize the motor if you do not shut it down as soon as you decide that the initial problem is gone.. . If the bike runs OK, get some fiberglass packing for the baffles (any Japanese bike shop can get it) and repack the baffles... The baffling material is just held onto the baffle itself with spiral-wrapped stainless steel wire.... If this didn't do the trick, let me know and I'll see what else I can do for you.... Good luck... ======================================================== Richard "VI,CE" Bernecker Manassas, VA, USoA bernie@cais.com "What's the use of having luck if you don't use it?" ======================================================== ------------------------------ From: "Richard Bernecker" <bernie@cais.cais.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:18:32 -5 Subject: Re: Clogged pipes Joe wrote: > I believe the pipes on my dad's Suzuki GT380 (2-stroke) are > clogged. The peak horepower is down to about 5 and each exhaust > pipe weighs about 35 lbs. Does anyone have a non-destructive > way of getting the carbon out of the pipes? > One thought in the light of day... The symptom, as much as has been described, really sounds like fouled plugs. Replace all three with new plugs and RUN the bike under a load..... If this doesn't help, try pulling the exhaust baffles as described last night... Also, before you run this thing again - check the crankcase oil level. If you are in fact burning enough oil to cause exhaust coking or fouled plugs, chances are you've lost the crankshaft seal which separates the engine crankcase from the transmission. This should show up as a low oil level in the tranny. If this is the case, STOP EVERYTHING. You will need to have the engine cases split and the seal replaced, most likely as part of a crankshaft overhaul... $$$$$$$. If you run the engine with this seal leaking, the induction vacuum will suck all of the tranny oil into the engine, burn it (poorly) and lead to a locked up tranny (while riding), you on the ground in a high-side, and large hospital as well as mechanical bills. Seriously. Check the oil level - if it's within spec, mark the level for future reference in case you are pulling it slowly... To recap - check the tranny oil, and replace the plugs first. If tranny oil level is OK, run the bike with new plugs. If that doesn't resolve the problem, pull the baffles. If that doesn't resolve the problem, let me know.... ======================================================== Richard "VI,CE" Bernecker Manassas, VA, USoA bernie@cais.com "What's the use of having luck if you don't use it?" ======================================================== ------------------------------ From: nimi@d2.com (Nathan Ives) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:05:51 -0800 Subject: R90/6 Vibrations Wanted to write and thank all those who responded to my message about the vibration in my R90/6. I ended up removing the flywheel, having it and the clutch balanced as a unit, and puting it all back together. To my ecstatic suprise, the vibration is gone and the bike is running perfectly. Thank You, nathan ives ****************************************************************************** "....as long as people know when the bus is leaving and where it is going." -Bret Goldhorn **************************************************************************** ** ------------------------------ From: afkjv@VMS.ACAD2.ALASKA.EDU Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 10:23:20 -0900 Subject: German Accent Fellow Presidents, Forgive me if I missed something in an earlier post, but what is with the "German accent" on messages to this list? Kinda cute at first, but makes for tedious reading when time is scarce. I noticed that my last post in response to Tim Eustis' question on water purifiers was somehow "translated" so as to appear Germanized. Since I had not posted the message that way (nor this message) nor gave anyone permission to do so, I personally would appreciate it if my messages to this list remained unaltered. Thank you. Kit Vercella ------------------------------ From: nimi@d2.com (Nathan Ives) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:41:19 -0800 Subject: Pilot Bearing, R90/6 Howdy, Does anybody know what it sounds like when the pilot bearing in an R bike is going bad? My bike has a light whine at an idle with the clutch out which goes away when I pull it in slightly. From my work on cars I thought this might be what it is, but I am unsure on the bike. Thanks in advance for any help. -nathan ****************************************************************************** "....as long as people know when the bus is leaving and where it is going." -Bret Goldhorn **************************************************************************** ** ------------------------------ From: bkeahey@uswest.com Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:04:37 MDT Subject: Re: Pilot Bearing, R90/6 Addressed to: nimi@d2.com BMW Mailing List <bmw-tech@roadkill.com> ** Reply to note from nimi@d2.com 04/01/96 12:41pm -0800 > Does anybody know what it sounds like when the pilot bearing in an > R bike is going bad? My bike has a light whine at an idle with the clutch > out which goes away when I pull it in slightly. From my work on cars I > thought this might be what it is, but I am unsure on the bike. Thanks in > advance for any help. > > -nathan I think the noise you've described in a car sounds more like a throwout bearing than a pilot bearing. Typically, a throwout bearing makes noise when it is not under load, as is the case when the clutch (pedal on a car, lever on a bike) is engaged. When you disengage the clutch (push the pedal on a car, pull the lever on a bike) the bearing is under load and the noise stops. A "pilot bearing" simply locates a car's trans input shaft in the center of the flywheel, and its load doesn't typically change with clutch in/out. // Bruce G. Keahey , U S WEST Advanced Technologies, Boulder, CO // "Never anger a dragon, for you are crunchy and you go well with Brie." ------------------------------ From: Jonathan Hutchins <jhutchins@pop.umkc.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 17:11:55 -0600 Subject: Aeroflow vs. Parabellum Anybody out there ever compare an Aeroflow replacement windscreen for the K100LT ('85) with the Parabellum? Parabellum's about $50 less, and I've heard good things about the company. Any other opinions? I'll probably order one this weekend if they're open. Jonathan Hutchins University Libraries Computer Support, University of Missouri at Kansas City '85 K100 BMW, '81 GS850G Suzuki Motorcycles, Computers, Guitars ... http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/jhutchins/ ------------------------------ From: Jonathan Hutchins <jhutchins@pop.umkc.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 17:57:55 -0600 Subject: Clutch Spline Consumables I may get a chance to do a clutch spline lube on my '85 K100RT this weekend. I'd like to have all the consumables in hand, as I'll be riding the beast to and from where I'm working on it, and the dealer's even further away. So far, the only consumable I have is the big tube of red-goo lube itself. I figure I'll need exhaust gaskets if the header's coming off. Any other gaskets, seals, or other bits I should have in hand? Aren't there some bolts I'll need to replace? Jonathan Hutchins University Libraries Computer Support, University of Missouri at Kansas City '85 K100 BMW, '81 GS850G Suzuki Motorcycles, Computers, Guitars ... http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/jhutchins/ ------------------------------ From: David Brick <dbrick@deepthought.armory.com> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:01:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Clutch Spline Consumables While you should replace the big nut which holds the clutch basket (or carrier) to the back of the motor, I'd suggest there's no need to remove it in the first place unless the rear main seal is leaking. If you're not disassembling the clutch itself (rhetorical questions: how long's it been in there? Slip or grab?) there's no other consumables in the job. If you do take the clutch apart, then you might consider replacing the six bolts which hold it together. David Brick dbrick@deepthought.armory.com Santa Cruz, California BOOF #8 and DAVE #6 (but always #1 to my mom) On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Jonathan Hutchins wrote: > http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/jhutchins/ ------------------------------ From: Fetoid@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:44:05 -0500 Subject: It's April First you accent complainers! Some people are pretty slow. It took me about 5 minutes to go from, "What is wrong w/ my Email program?" to, "Oh, ya, today is April Fools Day. That's pretty damn funny, a lot of effort though." Keep it up guys, I can't wait untill Halloween. http://www.wal-mart.com "Let's make sure history never forgets the name, Enterprise." -Picard, Yesterday's Enterprise ********************** ------------------------------ From: JLadd10686@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:14:54 -0500 Subject: Mikuni square side carbs Anyone out there running Mikuni carbs. I just got them in from Luftmeister and I am not sure I like them. They idle fine, but they bog on quick transitions from idle to 3000 rpm. I've tried setting the pin up and down a position, and the mixture screw doesn't peak. I keeps increasing the engine rpm until the screw falls out. 3000 up seems strong. Is there any past articles in the MOA about them? I do not have many older copies being a relatively new member. I will get back in touch with Matt Capri at Luftmeister also. ------------------------------ From: "Malcolm A. Meyn" <tmeyn@ag.arizona.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:05:44 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Mikuni square side carbs We'll need a lot more info to help you out with this. What size engine do you have? Is valve size stock? Is exhaust stock? Is intake port size stock? If anything is not stock, please provide the new dimensions. What size carbs are these? I assume they are slides and not CV. Best, Tony Meyn Tucson, AZ On Mon, 1 Apr 1996 JLadd10686@aol.com wrote: > > Anyone out there running Mikuni carbs. I just got them in from Luftmeister > and I am not sure I like them. They idle fine, but they bog on quick > transitions from idle to 3000 rpm. I've tried setting the pin up and down a > position, and the mixture screw doesn't peak. I keeps increasing the engine > rpm until the screw falls out. 3000 up seems strong. > Is there any past articles in the MOA about them? I do not have many older > copies being a relatively new member. I will get back in touch with Matt > Capri at Luftmeister also. > ------------------------------ From: JLadd10686@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:37:51 -0500 Subject: More carb stuff Here's some more info on my carbs: They are 38mm Mikuni square slides Jets: main is -> 195 pilot is -> 30 air is -> 1.5 Thanks, Jon ------------------------------ From: "Jonathan Hutchins" <jhutchins@pop.umkc.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:08:56 -0600 Subject: Re: Clutch Spline Consumables On 1 Apr 96 at 17:01, David Brick wrote: > While you should replace the big nut which holds the clutch basket > (or carrier) to the back of the motor, I'd suggest there's no need > to remove it in the first place unless the rear main seal is > leaking. OK, I think we'll leave that alone then. >If you're not disassembling the clutch itself (rhetorical > questions: how long's it been in there? Slip or grab?) Nope, just a mild dry-spline syndrome (sticks in gear occasionally). 10 years/20k miles. Thanks! Jonathan Hutchins University Libraries Computer Support, University of Missouri at Kansas City '85 K100 BMW, '81 GS850G Suzuki Motorcycles, Computers, Guitars ... http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/jhutchins/ ------------------------------ End of bmw-tech-digest V1 #8 **************************** Back to the top of this digest | To the next digestwls